Dendrochronology and Young Earth

[_Bob Loblaw]

Your faith is stronger than mine in these things.

The problem is that a number of methods are used, and they overlap each other. You can maybe doubt one method, but when all of the methods say the same thing, it's kind of hard to say they're all wrong.

[_just me]

Scientists account for all these things. Then they use more than one dating method for accuracy.

Your faith is stronger than mine in these things.

Hi GR33N. First, I just wanna be clear that I did not invite you to this thread to attck you or for their to be a gang up on you. I genuinely am curious how a young earther dismisses each individual dating method.

Is it fair to say that you have not studied each individual method and figured out why you believe each one is so flawed as to be useless? If you have, what were your conclusions?

[_GR33N]

Hi GR33N. First, I just wanna be clear that I did not invite you to this thread to attck you or for their to be a gang up on you. I genuinely am curious how a young earther dismisses each individual dating method.

Is it fair to say that you have not studied each individual method and figured out why you believe each one is so flawed as to be useless? If you have, what were your conclusions?

I have not studied each individual dating method (theory) and I don't think any of them are completely useless, just flawed. My conclusion is that humankind is flawed, scientists are human. I keep my mind open to the evidences science produces and rely on my own personal revelation as to what the truth is for me.

[_Drifting]

Hi GR33N. First, I just wanna be clear that I did not invite you to this thread to attck you or for their to be a gang up on you. I genuinely am curious how a young earther dismisses each individual dating method.

Is it fair to say that you have not studied each individual method and figured out why you believe each one is so flawed as to be useless? If you have, what were your conclusions?

I have not studied each individual dating method (theory) and I don't think any of them are completely useless, just flawed. My conclusion is that humankind is flawed, scientists are human. I keep my mind open to the evidences science produces and rely on my own personal revelation as to what the truth is for me.

Do you hold as truth the Church doctrine that a global flood happened circa 2,300bc?

[_just me]

Hi GR33N. First, I just wanna be clear that I did not invite you to this thread to attck you or for their to be a gang up on you. I genuinely am curious how a young earther dismisses each individual dating method.

Is it fair to say that you have not studied each individual method and figured out why you believe each one is so flawed as to be useless? If you have, what were your conclusions?

I have not studied each individual dating method (theory) and I don't think any of them are completely useless, just flawed. My conclusion is that humankind is flawed, scientists are human. I keep my mind open to the evidences science produces and rely on my own personal revelation as to what the truth is for me.

Thank you.

(I'm totally embarrassed at all my typing and grammar errors that are now forever displayed online...)

[_Themis]

I have not studied each individual dating method (theory) and I don't think any of them are completely useless, just flawed. My conclusion is that humankind is flawed, scientists are human. I keep my mind open to the evidences science produces and rely on my own personal revelation as to what the truth is for me.

Then why not try to learn about them from those who know them best and their flaws, and how to correct for them or at least include them when figuring out how the range of accuracy of a date. I think the last part of your post is what Trump's all else and the reason you haven't really spent any time getting to know some of these scientific methods and just how accurate they are. They actually understand the flaws better then anyone and take them into account.

rely on my own personal revelation as to what the truth is for me.

[_DrW]

I have not studied each individual dating method (theory) and I don't think any of them are completely useless, just flawed. My conclusion is that humankind is flawed, scientists are human. I keep my mind open to the evidences science produces and rely on my own personal revelation as to what the truth is for me.

These kinds of statements by adults make my head explode.

Let me get this straight. First you claim to keep your (reasoning) mind open. Then you admit that you don't use that open (reasoning) mind, but instead rely on your own feelings and emotions, rather than on evidence, facts and logic, to form your opinions.

There is a term that applies to those who use their minds to form opinions that are contrary to objective facts and weight of evidence.

You are allowed to make up your own mind. You are not allowed make up your own facts.
From reading your posts here, you are clearly trying to make up your own facts.

Do you not find it a bit embarrassing to admit in public that your beliefs and opinions are based on how your brain makes you feel rather than on your brain's ability to understand and apply reason and logic?

Because when you talk about "personal revelation", you are talking about nothing more than "personal feelings" - period.

[_Bond James Bond]

Read my signature and insert "Great Flood" for "Book of Mormon" and Youth Earth Creationism rationale will be explained.

[_DrW]

Read my signature and insert "Great Flood" for "Book of Mormon" and Youth Earth Creationism rationale will be explained.

You suggest that the ideation expressed below by Sister Charity in 2007 can be used explain Bro. GR33N's logic as expressed above.

Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

Here we have a case where the wisdom of the venerable BKP can finally be put to good use.

To wit: your explanation/interpretation may indeed be true, but it is certainly not helpful (to Sis. Charity or to Bro. GR33N).

[_GR33N]

I have not studied each individual dating method (theory) and I don't think any of them are completely useless, just flawed. My conclusion is that humankind is flawed, scientists are human. I keep my mind open to the evidences science produces and rely on my own personal revelation as to what the truth is for me.

These kinds of statements by adults make my head explode.

Let me get this straight. First you claim to keep your (reasoning) mind open. Then you admit that you don't use that open (reasoning) mind, but instead rely on your own feelings and emotions, rather than on evidence, facts and logic, to form your opinions.

There is a term that applies to those who use their minds to form opinions that are contrary to objective facts and weight of evidence.

You are allowed to make up your own mind. You are not allowed make up your own facts.
From reading your posts here, you are clearly trying to make up your own facts.

Do you not find it a bit embarrassing to admit in public that your beliefs and opinions are based on how your brain makes you feel rather than on your brain's ability to understand and apply reason and logic?

Because when you talk about "personal revelation", you are talking about nothing more than "personal feelings" - period.

I am not embarrassed to admit that I rely on personal revelation. Have you experienced personal revelation from God? If you have, you know what I'm talking about. If not, you may want to before defining what it is.