Does Mormonism Encourage LDS People to Lie? - Brooks

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Does Mormonism Encourage LDS People to Lie? - Brooks

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Johanna Brooks for religion dispatches

If we're talking in the context of church history, I have to say the answer is yes. It is done even at the highest levels. Consider some of the misrepresentations that were contained in the Mormonism 101 FAQ. For example:
Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?
Or the statement that "People of all races have always been welcomed and baptized into the Church since its beginning." When the saints in Ghana were in fact denied baptism by the church until the priesthood ban was lifted.
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Tsk, tsk, these are mere details.

Just keep telling yourself "there are no facts, only interpretations" and you'll be just fine.
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Milk before meat.
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I have been very critical of Brooks' spin on many issues, but not this one. I do appreciate her honesty on this subject, her willingness to identify this aspect of her own behavior and understand and engage the criticism.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:Milk before meat.


Back in the day, Joseph Smith had no problem giving them the meat (pun intended).
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So Brooks is now, for all intents and purposes, thoroughly apostate from the Church and its teachings and is shooting from the hip on a continual basis at an ever widening body of doctrinal, historical, and philosophical targets.

I'm sure here and Dehlin get along just marvelously. Brook's new Church of Progressive Postmodern Latter day Academics is not going to have many takers among those who are actually faithful members of the real article.
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Droopy wrote:So Brooks is now, for all intents and purposes, thoroughly apostate from the Church and its teachings and is shooting from the hip on a continual basis at an ever widening body of doctrinal, historical, and philosophical targets.

I'm sure here and Dehlin get along just marvelously. Brook's new Church of Progressive Postmodern Latter day Academics is not going to have many takers among those who are actually faithful members of the real article.


Your bigger problem is that the "real article" you speak of isn't attractive to anyone but people like you. No wonder the church is hemorrhaging members and baptisms are falling rapidly.
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DarkHelmet wrote:Back in the day, Joseph Smith had no problem giving them the meat (pun intended).


No kidding. It boggles the mind that I used to revere Joseph Smith.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
Droopy wrote:So Brooks is now, for all intents and purposes, thoroughly apostate from the Church and its teachings and is shooting from the hip on a continual basis at an ever widening body of doctrinal, historical, and philosophical targets.

I'm sure here and Dehlin get along just marvelously. Brook's new Church of Progressive Postmodern Latter day Academics is not going to have many takers among those who are actually faithful members of the real article.


Your bigger problem is that the "real article" you speak of isn't attractive to anyone but people like you. No wonder the church is hemorrhaging members and baptisms are falling rapidly.

I knew the church was bleeding members, but baptisms are down also?

I can't wait to see how they report their "rising membership" numbers in the future.

Do you have any reference for the lower baptism numbers? I would love to read it.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
DarkHelmet wrote:Back in the day, Joseph Smith had no problem giving them the meat (pun intended).


No kidding. It boggles the mind that I used to revere Joseph Smith.


Last Sunday I heard the hymn Praise To The Man. After leaning about polyandry, and his proposal to Lucy walker. It made me uncomfortable to say the least.
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