Our Male Agnodices

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Our Male Agnodices

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On another thread, our fearless board leader made the following comment in response to my query:

Dr. Shades wrote:
zeezrom wrote:What I would like to know is, does your Relief Society hold awesome activities like bread baking, sewing, and floral icing? Now that would be a Relief Society to join! I'd reactivate for that.

You'd also have to get a sex change for that.


Let us pause for a moment and consider why we have separation of the sexes in Mormon culture.

Women don't participate in male activities because they don't have the proper authority/calling.

Men don't participate in female activities because they have a penis.

In response to the good Doctor (Shades), I would like to suggest that men don't have to go to such drastic measures to get into female-dominant ward activities. Instead of a sex change, we might consider taking after the good Agnodice (of Athens) and disguise ourselves in women's clothing in order to enjoy the same activities.

We might easily admire Agnodice for her efforts in disguise for the greater good of science. But let me ask you, my lovely board friends. Would we just as easily admire a man for sneaking into a Relief Society craft class by dressing like a woman?

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Rosie Grier is one of your patron saints, Zeez. Google him and read all about it.
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All you gotta do to go to all the Relief Society stuff is be the bishop. Bishops can go anywhere.
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zeezrom wrote:Let us pause for a moment and consider why we have separation of the sexes in Mormon culture.

Women don't participate in male activities because they don't have the proper authority/calling.

Men don't participate in female activities because they have a penis.

Makes sense since a member of the LDS Church can only have the priesthood, first and foremost, if that member has a penis.
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zeezrom wrote: But let me ask you, my lovely board friends. Would we just as easily admire a man for sneaking into a Relief Society craft class by dressing like a woman?
Like Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie?
No. That man wouldn't be admired. Such step would pave his way to excommunication. Nobody risks this.

The opposite? Similarly unimaginable. We liked Yentl with Barbra Streisand.
These are movies only.

In the real life? Imagine a man who sneaks into the saudi "women's city"... (See this thread I've started a few hours ago.)


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ludwigm wrote:
zeezrom wrote: But let me ask you, my lovely board friends. Would we just as easily admire a man for sneaking into a Relief Society craft class by dressing like a woman?
Like Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie?
No. That man wouldn't be admired. Such step would pave his way to excommunication. Nobody risks this.

The opposite? Similarly unimaginable. We liked Yentl with Barbra Streisand.
These are movies only.

In the real life? Imagine a man who sneaks into the saudi "women's city"... (See this thread I've started a few hours ago.)


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but then the penises would try to take over.

Some transexuals can't get into some women's gatherings, those are called women-born women gatherings. The testosterone exposure has affected the transexuals' brains. Not even Dr. Shade's suggestion would work at such.


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lulu wrote:but then the penises would try to take over.]

I don't believe that would happen.
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Blixa wrote:Rosie Grier is one of your patron saints, Zeez. Google him and read all about it.

The best!
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just me wrote:All you gotta do to go to all the Relief Society stuff is be the bishop. Bishops can go anywhere.

They can sit in the back but they cannot (according to 21st century Western etiquette) participate.
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