Is BYU easy peasy?

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Re: Is BYU easy peasy?

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Drifting wrote:Is it true that at BYU instead of marking exams, the Proffessors just pray to find out what grades to give students?

Partially true.
After prayer he (she?) uses his (her? damn...) free agency, then gives what (s)he wants.
As most of the teachers. (I wasn't better when I was active...)

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Re: Is BYU easy peasy?

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Drifting wrote:Surely BYU courses are easier because the Lord is assisting you?


I don't know about that, but the fact that the students are 1) sober, 2) dressed, and 3) actually interested in learning from a professor they generally hold in respect may indeed have something to do with it. I envy the BYU professors that bright, enthusiastic, dressed, and clean-cut/shaven student body.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Drifting wrote:Surely BYU courses are easier because the Lord is assisting you?


I don't know about that, but the fact that the students are 1) sober, 2) dressed, and 3) actually interested in learning from a professor they generally hold in respect may indeed have something to do with it. I envy the BYU professors that bright, enthusiastic, dressed, and clean-cut/shaven student body.


Does that lead to better results?
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Re: Is BYU easy peasy?

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Drifting wrote:Does that lead to better results?


I believe it does in certain ways, and it can't help but not.

I think one of the advantages is that more people perform well, because they are not distracted to the same degree.

I have not, however, conducted a study. So this is just my impression and opinion. I have taught at BYU, an Ivy, and a large state school.
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Re: Is BYU easy peasy?

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Kishkumen wrote:
Drifting wrote:Does that lead to better results?


I believe it does in certain ways, and it can't help but not.

I think one of the advantages is that more people perform well, because they are not distracted to the same degree.

I have not, however, conducted a study. So this is just my impression and opinion. I have taught at BYU, an Ivy, and a large state school.


It would be interesting I think (and I'm being serious) to see if numerically this manifests into better results. Do Universities or Federal Departments publish league tables of this kind of thing?

In the UK, schools and Universities have their results published and ranked and measured by Ofsted (a government watchdog for education standards).
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Drifting wrote:It would be interesting I think (and I'm being serious) to see if numerically this manifests into better results. Do Universities or Federal Departments publish league tables of this kind of thing?

In the UK, schools and Universities have their results published and ranked and measured by Ofsted (a government watchdog for education standards).


The UK has much more stringent standards regarding grading. Professors there have their grades reviewed and they have to account for them to the point of justifying why they gave grade "x."

It is incredibly difficult to determine the precise value of an educational experience, even with numbers.

I would say performance on the job market and in graduate school would be decent indicators. But then, a large percentage of the BYU undergraduates aspire to raise children and not work.
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Re: Is BYU easy peasy?

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for what it's worth, BYU undergrads on average perform very well on the LSAT test as compared to other schools nationally (and because of that BYU generally does very well at getting students into top law schools like Harvard, Chicago, etc.).
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Re: Is BYU easy peasy?

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I think some students are stunned at how difficult BYU can be - it is not a wimpy church school - especially the MAC, Law and MBA programs which are challenging.
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LDS truthseeker wrote:I think some students are stunned at how difficult BYU can be - it is not a wimpy church school - especially the MAC, Law and MBA programs which are challenging.


Very true, LDS truthseeker.
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