Kishkumen wrote: What are these people going to university for, if they steadfastly refuse to be challenged or engage in any intellectual exchange?
That's funny. If they already know everything, why go to college? It's like people who refuse to read anything that they don't already agree with. Why not just be illiterate?
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DarkHelmet wrote:That's funny. If they already know everything, why go to college? It's like people who refuse to read anything that they don't already agree with. Why not just be illiterate?
They effectively are, and treat their education as merely an investment in their future employment. I wish we could distinguish between those who care enough to be intellectually engaged, and those who don't give a crap, and send the latter to vocational training.
In the meantime, I'll fight to try to get them to care, as hopeless as it sometimes seems. And I guess that is the point others are trying to make here. I take back my elitist statements about vo-tech, because you really never know who will catch fire with the love of learning.
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The male student who stood up in class and directed the rest of the class to “not participate” by not responding to my challenge, represented the worst of education. For starters, the idea that a person—student or instructor—would instruct other students on how to behave, is pretty arrogant and grossly disrespects the rights of other students who can and want to think for themselves and decide for themselves whether they want to engage in the exchange of ideas or not. Moreover, this “let's just put our fingers in our ears so we will not hear what we disagree with” is appallingly childish and exemplifies “anti-intellectualism.” The purpose of a university is to engage in dialogue, debate, and exchange ideas in order to try and come to some meaningful conclusion about an issue at hand. Not to shut ourselves off from ideas we find threatening.
It seems like some people who are commenting didn't even read the article properly or skimmed over it and thought good on the boy for standing up for his beliefs... you might as well have just put your fingers in your ears!
The Boy was trying to dominate the others by telling them what to do. And the professor is hypocrite! for saying they were behaving like children and yet saying instructors shouldn't tell other people how to behave...
That'll learn Ya!
PrickKicker: I used to be a Narrow minded, short sighted, Lying, Racist, Homophobic, Pious, Moron. But they were all behavioral traits that I had learnt through Mormonism.
PrickKicker wrote:The male student who stood up in class and directed the rest of the class to “not participate” by not responding to my challenge, represented the worst of education. For starters, the idea that a person—student or instructor—would instruct other students on how to behave, is pretty arrogant and grossly disrespects the rights of other students who can and want to think for themselves and decide for themselves whether they want to engage in the exchange of ideas or not. Moreover, this “let's just put our fingers in our ears so we will not hear what we disagree with” is appallingly childish and exemplifies “anti-intellectualism.” The purpose of a university is to engage in dialogue, debate, and exchange ideas in order to try and come to some meaningful conclusion about an issue at hand. Not to shut ourselves off from ideas we find threatening.
It seems like some people who are commenting didn't even read the article properly or skimmed over it and thought good on the boy for standing up for his beliefs... you might as well have just put your fingers in your ears!
The Boy was trying to dominate the others by telling them what to do. And the professor is hypocrite! for saying they were behaving like children and yet saying instructors shouldn't tell other people how to behave...
That'll learn Ya!
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PrickKicker wrote: The purpose of a university is to engage in dialogue, debate, and exchange ideas in order to try and come to some meaningful conclusion about an issue at hand. Not to shut ourselves off from ideas we find threatening.!
huffingtonpost wrote:Some students erroneously believe a university is just an extension of high school, where students are spoon-fed “soft” topics and dilemmas to confront, regurgitate the “right” answers on exams (right answers as deemed by the instructor or a textbook), and then move on to the next course.
another page somewhere in the Internet continuum wrote:From all 50 states and from all corners of the world, a new crop of students starts their journey at Brigham Young University. And the first step in that journey begins Wednesday with New Student Orientation.
My stupid association again. Don't care.
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