Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
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Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
All good novels begin with something that quickly catches the reader. I won't bother you with examples. You all know what I mean, so I'll just take a CFR as someone being a smartass.
Anyway, I wonder what about my own morality, when I was growing up Mormon, did not kick in and tell me that the killing for the Lord at the beginning of the Book of Mormon was repugnant to the point that I would be compelled to stop reading? Oh, I recall it being discussed in seminary, BYU religion classes, and on my mission. But how in the hell did I not have the sensibilities and courage to go with it to say, WTF? and shit-can the whole of the LDS religion right there and then (the first time reading that)?
I suppose that it could be chalked up to being young, dumb and ... and the Mormon peer pressure, but hell, man, I am so ashamed of the pre-age 25 sock puppet.
I stand in awe of those of you, like Pokatator, who saw it for what it was much earlier in life than I and took a stand against it.
Anyway, I wonder what about my own morality, when I was growing up Mormon, did not kick in and tell me that the killing for the Lord at the beginning of the Book of Mormon was repugnant to the point that I would be compelled to stop reading? Oh, I recall it being discussed in seminary, BYU religion classes, and on my mission. But how in the hell did I not have the sensibilities and courage to go with it to say, WTF? and shit-can the whole of the LDS religion right there and then (the first time reading that)?
I suppose that it could be chalked up to being young, dumb and ... and the Mormon peer pressure, but hell, man, I am so ashamed of the pre-age 25 sock puppet.
I stand in awe of those of you, like Pokatator, who saw it for what it was much earlier in life than I and took a stand against it.
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Re: Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
I think the Laban slaying thing is there as a type of winnowing. Anyone that will buy into that story and keep reading is a good candidate for believing in anything.
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality.
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Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality.
~Bill Hamblin
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Re: Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
SteelHead wrote:I think the Laban slaying thing is there as a type of winnowing. Anyone that will buy into that story and keep reading is a good candidate for believing in anything.
ouch. I deserved that.
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Re: Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
Well between it and the whole lost 116 pages thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ViF6JRNjTk
But don't fret. I bought into too.....................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ViF6JRNjTk
But don't fret. I bought into too.....................
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality.
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Re: Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
It is just as easy to spear the Bible as the Book of Mormon. There are plenty of takers out there doing it to the Bible. The fact that this board abstains from Bible skewers is how patently obvious your objectivity would fall under the bus. That would exceedingly lighten the weight you want to bring against Joseph Smith alone.
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You know she does not believe in God at all don't you? Sheeeeee only pretends for the same reason to bring as much weight against Joseph Smith as possible.
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You know she does not believe in God at all don't you? Sheeeeee only pretends for the same reason to bring as much weight against Joseph Smith as possible.
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Re: Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
What's with your obsession with the Tanners, Mooseman? Nobody was talking about them. And yes, the Bible is full of illogical crap, too. But this board is called Mormon Discussions, and we tend to discuss the uniquely Mormon stuff more often here.
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Re: Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
Mooseman wrote:It is just as easy to spear the Bible as the Book of Mormon. There are plenty of takers out there doing it to the Bible. The fact that this board abstains from Bible skewers is how patently obvious your objectivity would fall under the bus. That would exceedingly lighten the weight you want to bring against Joseph Smith alone.
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You know she does not believe in God at all don't you? Sheeeeee only pretends for the same reason to bring as much weight against Joseph Smith as possible.
I don't devote effort to discussing the Bible on this board because that would take us into areas that are, in general, common to all Christians.
This is a discussion board specifically about Mormonism, and so I tend to want to talk about issues that are particularly characteristic of Mormonism - such as the Book of Mormon, the Book of Abraham, the life and teachings of Joseph Smith, and so on.
You have a problem with that?
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
Who was it that said the Book of Mormon is chloroform in print? I had to crush my way through that book. Cover to cover 5 times...
Brutal.
At least I read the Bible one time cover to cover. I think the Bible is worse...
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Brutal.
At least I read the Bible one time cover to cover. I think the Bible is worse...
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
Why did Nathaniel Hawthorn insist on making Hester Prynne wear a Scarlet A, when that letter was so stigmatizing?!!! Don't give me any of that "calm down Moksha, it was just part of the story". This letter branding has to stop!!!
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Re: Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?
Mooseman wrote:It is just as easy to spear the Bible as the Book of Mormon. There are plenty of takers out there doing it to the Bible. The fact that this board abstains from Bible skewers is how patently obvious your objectivity would fall under the bus. That would exceedingly lighten the weight you want to bring against Joseph Smith alone.
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You know she does not believe in God at all don't you? Sheeeeee only pretends for the same reason to bring as much weight against Joseph Smith as possible.
Welcome to the board!
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