Equality wrote:Despite my plug for the Mifi, I actually do think it is rude to be reading electronic devices in Sacrament meeting. I totally understand the desire to do so for one who is attending under some duress. But, really, the use of electronic entertainment devices in churches, schools, restaurants, etc. has gotten way out of hand. There is a time and place for everything. Church is not really the time to be surfing the net or playing Ticket to Ride or listening to music or podcasts, is it? I think if I had done that during the short time when I was doing the whole "attend to keep peace in the family" thing with my wife, she would have been as upset or more upset than if I had just stayed home. I kind of think that if you are going to make the commitment to go to church, well, maybe you ought to suck it up and actually go to church and not just transfer the living room to the chapel. But if you do decide to bring the Ipad or Itouch to church, I still heartily endorse the Mifi. Maybe just use it in the foyer, though.
Well, my son is autistic and also has ADHD. Anything to keep him quiet and still during Sacrament Meeting is something both hubby and I will promote.
Equality wrote:Church is not really the time to be surfing the net or playing Ticket to Ride or listening to music or podcasts, is it? I think if I had done that during the short time when I was doing the whole "attend to keep peace in the family" thing with my wife, she would have been as upset or more upset than if I had just stayed home.
That was my experience. Didn't matter if it was a tablet or a coloring book, if I wasn't paying attention it didn't count.
You clearly haven't heard of seminary, where the only criteria to pass is 80% attendance. And attend does not mean 'pay attention'.
May not work there either. Those who cut up in class are typically marked absent in my experience. Some of the teachers are also pretty good and you'll never know but what your child removes his earbuds and gets "indoctrinated".
It's not too difficult to identify a NOM family. We've got one right now whose son, to their obvious consternation, has been called on a mission and is going. They want to go through the temple with him, but it's not going to happen. Maybe when he gets back.....
Won't work as we notice such things. One of the TR questions is about attending one's meetings. We don't count that as attendance nor would we advance a young man in the priesthood who does that. No peace.
1. Who is "we?" 2. What is "that?" 3. How is "that" monitored by "we?"
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
You and I would not want to tangle if we were in the same stake.
Ah, your true colors do display from time to time. I've not ever seen a TR issued to anyone who goes to Sacrament and then skips out on Sundays over several decades and in several Stakes in different states:
Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
Most people are not so clueless as to not recognize if a person is striving or not. A bishop is going to ask in the interview why he doesn't see you at Church and he's not going to accept a BS excuse.
You and I would not want to tangle if we were in the same stake.
Ah, your true colors do display from time to time. I've not ever seen a TR issued to anyone who goes to Sacrament and then skips out on Sundays over several decades and in several Stakes in different states:
Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
Most people are not so clueless as to not recognize if a person is striving or not. A bishop is going to ask in the interview why he doesn't see you at Church and he's not going to accept a BS excuse.
How many text messages during Sac. Meeting is a Deacon allowed before you refuse to advance him to Teacher?
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Drifting wrote:I'm 3G on all my integrated Steve Jobs appliances...
The new iPad is 4G!
I'm holding out for the half size one that will compete with the Nexus 7.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Won't work as we notice such things. One of the TR questions is about attending one's meetings. We don't count that as attendance nor would we advance a young man in the priesthood who does that. No peace.
Bc, what's the official doctrinal position on how many Sundays a year you need to attend for it to count? I really don't remember meeting attendance being a TR criteria as Elder Poelman informed us in 1984 that one can live the Gospel without needing to attend Church...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
You clearly haven't heard of seminary, where the only criteria to pass is 80% attendance. And attend does not mean 'pay attention'.
May not work there either. Those who cut up in class are typically marked absent in my experience. Some of the teachers are also pretty good and you'll never know but what your child removes his earbuds and gets "indoctrinated".
It's not too difficult to identify a NOM family. We've got one right now whose son, to their obvious consternation, has been called on a mission and is going. They want to go through the temple with him, but it's not going to happen. Maybe when he gets back.....
Families can be together forever...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Won't work as we notice such things. One of the TR questions is about attending one's meetings. We don't count that as attendance nor would we advance a young man in the priesthood who does that. No peace.
Bc, what's the official doctrinal position on how many Sundays a year you need to attend for it to count?
One Sunday a month to not be considered inactive. That's based on reporting instructions for each quarter.
I really don't remember meeting attendance being a TR criteria as Elder Poelman informed us in 1984 that one can live the Gospel without needing to attend Church...
I can guarantee you a one Sunday a monther is not going to get a TR or priesthood advancement (Aaronic to Melchizedek) unless they have better than a BS excuse. For example, we have a truck driver who is gone but a few days a month. However, we are fairly certain he's telling the truth when he says he attends meetings whenever he can wherever he is at because he's been seen there.
It's useless for a NOM to think he or she can hide without consequence. We've actually had Regional and Stake leadership meetings on this issue.
