For Zee and anyone else who attends Church to keep the peace

[_Drifting]

It's useless for a NOM to think he or she can hide without consequence. We've actually had Regional and Stake leadership meetings on this issue.

Would you please expand on this?

What is your definition of "hiding without consequence"?

I'd like also to know what bc thinks denotes a member as NOM...

[_consiglieri]

For example, we have a truck driver who is gone but a few days a month. However, we are fairly certain he's telling the truth when he says he attends meetings whenever he can wherever he is at because he's been seen there.

All I can say is thank God you have visual verification.

And when did attending church meetings become a commandment?

(I hate the way Mormons are always sneaking new requirements in and calling them commandments, and then penalizing you for not obeying them . . . unless there is visual verification, of course.)

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_consiglieri]

It's useless for a NOM to think he or she can hide without consequence. We've actually had Regional and Stake leadership meetings on this issue.

Now this is interesting!

Please share with us the training you have received on NOM's!

It appears to include at least some method of identifying them inasmuch as you say they cannot hide without consequence.

Dish. Dish.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_Wilma Fingerdoo]

If I'm there and the bishopric is there doesn't that make it OUR time? There is nothing wrong with a little angry birds or casual reading on our time.

I love all the suggestions on other options.

Question for BC: If the bishopric notices me playing games during Sacrament (and I'm pretty sure they do) and this activity should keep me out of the temple (according to you) then why do they keep trying to get me to go to the temple (which they ask me al least twice a month)

Im only there to be social and support my wife.

Like the NOM family in your story I pray my son chooses not to go on a mission. If he does and I get treated like this family then I would expect leaders like BC and his ilk to completely pay for his mission.

[_Equality]

It's useless for a NOM to think he or she can hide without consequence. We've actually had Regional and Stake leadership meetings on this issue.

You make the church appear far more sinister than any critic ever could.

[_Blixa]

It's useless for a NOM to think he or she can hide without consequence. We've actually had Regional and Stake leadership meetings on this issue.

You make the church appear far more sinister than any critic ever could.

No kidding.

[_Yoda]

It's not too difficult to identify a NOM family. We've got one right now whose son, to their obvious consternation, has been called on a mission and is going. They want to go through the temple with him, but it's not going to happen. Maybe when he gets back.....

(bold emphasis mine) BC, please clarify what you mean by "obvious consternation".

And why will they not be able to go through the temple with their son?

[_Sethbag]

I'm a little alarmed that BC feels the need to explain that they've verified that his truck-driving wardmate has in fact been confirmed to have attended church elsewhere, when he claims he was on the road.

It's a good thing his alibi checked out.

[_LDSToronto]

It's not too difficult to identify a NOM family. We've got one right now whose son, to their obvious consternation, has been called on a mission and is going. They want to go through the temple with him, but it's not going to happen. Maybe when he gets back.....

I'm in a similar situation - inactive, no belief, but I have an older son who may serve a mission. If I am denied any privilege that I want (temple attendance, participate in the ordinance, anything), you can rest assured I won't:

1. Pay for a single thing - suits, flights, the $500 a month it costs to serve
2. Sign any document required
3. Keep quiet - I'll go to the local media, I will go to law, I will bear testimony in church about how crappy the church is.

Easy peasy.

H.

[_Sethbag]

LDSToronto,
If your son chooses to go on a mission, which LDS priveleges would you actually want? Would you want to go through the temple with him?