NOMs "Hiding Without Consequence" Stake/Regional Meetings

[_Cylon]

According to BC in my thread here, viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25441&start=42

there are stake and regional meetings being held concerning NOMs and how they can no longer "hide without consequence".

I was wondering if BC, or any others who may have attended and/or participated in such a meeting could please expand on this, and go into further explanation of what is exactly being talked about here.

Not in my stake. But we have had meetings about the high inactivity rate and the "rescue." I am sure BCs stake is helping to increase the inactivity rate by such actions.

Can you give us any specifics on what is the "rescue" plan in your stake? Did you get any documents similar to what they gave to the church in Sweden? (see here if you're unfamiliar). As consig said, dish! Dish! ;-)

[_Valentinus]

I don't know what a NOM is other than what it stands for. No one has ever explained it to me so I wouldn't know what to look for. Someone also mentioned somewhere about Reform Mormonism. That is another group I have no idea about either.

[_Cylon]

I don't know what a NOM is other than what it stands for. No one has ever explained it to me so I wouldn't know what to look for. Someone also mentioned somewhere about Reform Mormonism. That is another group I have no idea about either.

At its most basic, a NOM is a Mormon who doesn't believe some or all of the church's truth claims, but still attends church or otherwise participates in some degree.

[Guest]

My wife has worked long and hard to rid herself of belief in the lies of Joseph Smith. She feels comfortable as a Mormon who no longer has to make excuses (to herself or others) for Joseph Smith or for LDS racism, or sexism, or homophobia, or crazy right-wing politics, or Mitt Romney.

If steps were taken to attach consequences to non-belief in these things, her next step would be out of the Church - in a heartbeat.

So she is a Mormon in name only?

Sock,

My wife loves the LDS Church. As I have mentioned on this board before, she feels that her parents and two brothers were helped greatly (perhaps even saved) by the LDS Church when she was young child in Germany. Fact is that she and her two brothers survived, while her two half-brothers did not.

It has been very difficult for her to give up belief in Joseph Smith and many of the doctrines of the LDS Church while her two brothers remain TBM. One reason that she has been able to do this is because we have spent a great deal of time outside the US living in other countries, and have never resided in Utah, where her two brothers live.

She will not talk about her disbelief with others (except me). She still attends Church (usually one meeting only) and takes the sacrament. As I have mentioned, she does more compassionate service in many months that the rest of the ward (and in some months, perhaps even the rest of the stake) combined.

Does this type of approach to her religion make her a Mormon in name only?

If she pays tithing on her income (not mine), attends Church, obeys the WoW, performs compassionate service, teaches Relief Society when asked, is she a Mormon in name only?

I do not attend Church, drink coffee, help her with her compassionate service when I am home, and participate on the MDB as a severe critic of the LDS Church.

At her request, however, I have not yet resigned. Since I have not resigned, do I qualify as a Mormon in name only?

I definitely do not identify myself to others as a Mormon. Since I am still no doubt on the records of the Church, however, I am sure they would claim that I am a Mormon (at least in name only).

As Liz asks, what is an NOM?

Is there a rational working definition of the term?

As someone else mentioned, should non-adherance to any one of Hamblin's 4 be the line of demarkation?

Is Bill Hamblin really important enough the he should be allowed (even de facto) to define these things for the entire LDS Church?

[_Valentinus]

I don't know what a NOM is other than what it stands for. No one has ever explained it to me so I wouldn't know what to look for. Someone also mentioned somewhere about Reform Mormonism. That is another group I have no idea about either.

At its most basic, a NOM is a Mormon who doesn't believe some or all of the church's truth claims, but still attends church or otherwise participates in some degree.

Although I am not a member on record, I suppose I am a NOM. I still attend but find myself chuckling a nice bit of the time as members say some of the silliest things.

[_DrW]

Although I am not a member on record, I suppose I am a NOM. I still attend but find myself chuckling a nice bit of the time as members say some of the silliest things.

Vanentinus,

With all due respect, some lines of demarkation for a definition of NOM are needed here.

IMHO, not being a member of record should allow one to say that you fall outside the definition of NOM.

[_Valentinus]

Although I am not a member on record, I suppose I am a NOM. I still attend but find myself chuckling a nice bit of the time as members say some of the silliest things.

Vanentinus,

With all due respect, some lines of demarkation for a definition of NOM are needed here.

IMHO, not being a member of record should allow one to say that you fall outside the definition of NOM.

You are probably correct since being a member is a qualifier for the definition.

[_3sheets2thewind]

What kind of jackass would go on witch hunt?
What kind of jackass would use the term NOM for the witch hunt?

[_moksha]

Bc, in case there is a pogrom for NOMS, would you join the Cossacks?

[_madeleine]

No one expects the Mormon Inquisition.

Confess! Confess! Confess!