Kishkumen wrote:I really don't understand what is so hard to understand about the usefulness, nay, importance, of being polite and acting civil in adult society. It is so basic a principle, inculcated in all faiths and even in public schooling, that one would think it should go without saying. How these gentlemen can sit around pontificating about the usefulness and necessity of being an asshole to others shows exactly how bankrupt their thinking is.
I guess the Golden Rule no longer applies to them. Why? They're special.
Franktalk said it best:
"If you truly knew that you made the best decision then what I think would not matter. But it does matter to you. One day you may experience true self confidence. But until that day I see that you will try and elevate yourself by lowering others. Your outward shell is strong but your inner man is a punk."
Kishkumen wrote:Yes, stemelbow? You wanted to say something?
Tell me when you find the purportedly academic journal in which I published all of my heinous attacks.
Come now, you too must realize the irony in your post. As it is it appears, you too seem to struggle with acting polite and being civil in adult society. I suppose you can, in your head and amongst your buds, think you can behave like the ass that you are and complain about others doing the same because you aren't associated with Mormon publications. It appears you are doing nothing much more than deceiving yourself. I hope more for you as a person. That's all--repent and forsake. Then, your complaints won't sound so silly. Same goes for Scratch.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
I really want to post something intelligent, witty or clever about the Doctrine in this post. But all I can think of is: Is this tread based on characters in Harry Potter?
PrickKicker: I used to be a Narrow minded, short sighted, Lying, Racist, Homophobic, Pious, Moron. But they were all behavioral traits that I had learnt through Mormonism.
Kishkumen wrote:Yes, stemelbow? You wanted to say something?
Tell me when you find the purportedly academic journal in which I published all of my heinous attacks.
Come now, you too must realize the irony in your post. As it is it appears, you too seem to struggle with acting polite and being civil in adult society. I suppose you can, in your head and amongst your buds, think you can behave like the ass that you are and complain about others doing the same because you aren't associated with Mormon publications. It appears you are doing nothing much more than deceiving yourself. I hope more for you as a person. That's all--repent and forsake. Then, your complaints won't sound so silly.
Talk about irony!
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
Doctor Scratch wrote:Again: why does it have to come to this? Why is this a rhetorical practice that the apologists feel like they have to defend? Is this really all they've got?
Yes, this has been my conclusion for a while now. Mopologetics hasn't been some misguided club of people who think they are all mini-Chestertons. It's not the case that they are simply misguided, that instead of making reasonable arguments they have mistakenly concluded that empty and bombastic rhetoric is better for making their case. They are firing the only weapon they have. I doubt this has been a conscious decision on their parts, it's simply the only option they have.
I also don't think that they are stupid and angry people and that once pushed aside the more reasonable people will produce better apologetics for the LDS church. They will either go down the same road (less likely) or will simply produce scholarship with little apologetic value (more likely).
Kishkumen wrote:I really don't understand what is so hard to understand about the usefulness, nay, importance, of being polite and acting civil in adult society. It is so basic a principle, inculcated in all faiths and even in public schooling, that one would think it should go without saying. How these gentlemen can sit around pontificating about the usefulness and necessity of being an asshole to others shows exactly how bankrupt their thinking is.
I guess the Golden Rule no longer applies to them. Why? They're special.
Two quotes that I read in today's daily newspaper seem particularly appropriate:
"When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people." (Abraham Joshua Herschel, U.S. rabbi, professor and theologian)
"Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not." (Samuel Johnson, English writer)
stemelbow wrote:Come now, you too must realize the irony in your post. As it is it appears, you too seem to struggle with acting polite and being civil in adult society. I suppose you can, in your head and amongst your buds, think you can behave like the ass that you are and complain about others doing the same because you aren't associated with Mormon publications. It appears you are doing nothing much more than deceiving yourself. I hope more for you as a person. That's all--repent and forsake. Then, your complaints won't sound so silly. Same goes for Scratch.
stemelbow,
Look in the mirror, "sir." I am not calling you or anyone else here an "ass." All I can say is that if you have an argument to make, make it. Nothing I have ever said on this one discussion board was ever written with the intent of marginalizing someone from the LDS Church or leading to Church discipline against that person. Your equivalency argument just does not work. Restating it thousands of times doesn't make it work. Make an argument. Reason with people. Don't just say, "oh, yeah, but you said some harsh stuff too." I can tell you that it is not working. So, if you have any intent other than to annoy, prove it by making an argument. Otherwise, we will continue to believe that you are nothing but a troll.
You are, once again, simply trolling.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
I really want to post something intelligent, witty or clever about the Doctrine in this post. But all I can think of is: Is this tread based on characters in Harry Potter?