Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?

[_Gordon]

Only murder those god tells you to murder. In Abraham's case, his son.

Obedience to a capricious god is the only absolute.

LDS have faith that the Lord knows what He is doing. Obviously, you do not.

[Guest]

I got it Gordon. God's plans are not thwarted. Except when they are.

They never are. That's the issue.

It is better that one man perish than a nation dwindle. God's plan.

Nation dwindled anyway. God's bigger plan.

They would have dwindled away 800 years earlier without the Law...what don't you understand about that?

They would have dwindled away because of a lack of truth, not for rejecting it...what don't you understand about that?

[_Molok]

The LDS Church teaches that murder is bad because it takes away the agency of the victim. We deny them the opportunity to live according to the Gospel. We don't know what they will do...the Lord does, however. He is the ultimate judge, and who are we to put a time restriction on that? If the Lord deems that a soul is lost, He can command their mortal life to end.

So, like I said before, murder isn't evil. It's just an arbitrary rule God set up. Thanks for confirming that for us.

[_SteelHead]

As evidenced by god killing David's and Bathseba's son for their iniquity.

[_Stormy Waters]

A photocopier would have taken away from disposing of an evil man, and the opportunity to try Nephi's faith/obedience.

What a way to test someones obedience. See if they are willing to do things contrary to their conscience. God could have disposed of Laban using countless methods.
Again if anyone today claimed to have murdered someone because God told them to we would not entertain the claim for a second in court.

[_Gordon]

So, like I said before, murder isn't evil. It's just an arbitrary rule God set up. Thanks for confirming that for us.

Disobeying the Lord is evil. The act of ending someones mortal life isn't inherently evil...the reasons can be. If the Lord commands us not to eat apples, and we do anyway, that is evil. The act of eating the apple isn't inherently so.

[_Molok]

As evidenced by god killing David's and Bathseba's son for their iniquity.

And the guy who tried to stop the Ark of the Covenant from falling off the cart.

[_SteelHead]

I got it Gordon. God's plans are not thwarted. Except when they are.

They never are. That's the issue.

It is better that one man perish than a nation dwindle. God's plan.

Nation dwindled anyway. God's bigger plan.

They would have dwindled away 800 years earlier without the Law...what don't you understand about that?

They would have dwindled away because of a lack of truth, not for rejecting it...what don't you understand about that?

Photocopier. He died for the lack of a photocopier. God could have just handed Nephi a set of copies, as he gave him a liahona. But it was a test to see if Nephi would murder.

He passed!

[_SteelHead]

So, like I said before, murder isn't evil. It's just an arbitrary rule God set up. Thanks for confirming that for us.

Disobeying the Lord is evil. The act of ending someones mortal life isn't inherently evil...the reasons can be. If the Lord commands us not to eat apples, and we do anyway, that is evil. The act of eating the apple isn't inherently so.

Again, the only absolute is obey god.

Or he will kill you.

Nice guy this god fellow.

[_Gordon]

As evidenced by god killing David's and Bathseba's son for their iniquity.

The child died as a punishment to David...not to the child. LDS believe the child is saved in the CK...not a bad life for the little guy.