Why did I ever read beyond the slaying of Laban?

[_krose]

What is this G-d thing all about?

Is writing God or god a blashphemy?

It is a superstition similar to the belief that taking your photo will steal your soul.

Vowels are dirty, disgusting, sinful things that should never be allowed to sully the sacred title (not even a name) of a deity.

[_sock puppet]

What is this G-d thing all about?

Is writing God or god a blashphemy?

It is a superstition similar to the belief that taking your photo will steal your soul.

Vowels are dirty, disgusting, sinful things that should never be allowed to sully the sacred title (not even a name) of a deity.

Oh, you mean Gordon wasn't using "G-d" as the common abbreviation for "god damn"?

[_Chap]

What is this G-d thing all about?

Is writing God or god a blashphemy?

Or a new principle revealed by President Newsroom?

Religious Jews have traditionally avoided writing or pronouncing the 'tetragrammaton' (four-lettered) name of their deity, usually romanised as YHWH and conventionally supplied with vowels as Yahweh. Other periphrases are also customary - thus for instance if a text calls the deity 'Adonai' ('my lord', in honorific plural form), it may be read aloud as 'Adoshem', with 'shem' ('name') substituted for the final syllable. One may even use the term 'Hashem' (The Name') to get even further from the actual names referring to the deity.

The use of 'G-d' in English instead of 'God' by a minority of Jews is a transposition of such practices. Goodness knows why any LDS would want to do that - LDS prophets have never shown any reluctance to pronounce the name(s) of their deity, or to write them in full whenever required.

[_Nomomo]

God's voice, Abraham, and child murder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHGEELdSHHc

[_Tchild]

I most assuredly can see that. However, that doesn't negate the fact that G-d does allow/command the killing of people. Just because one person is in error, doesn't automatically mean another is.

Sorry Gordon, there are no facts in your assertion. It is your *belief* only. Beliefs are not facts. Beliefs are the mental constructs that exist in the mind alone. So, it is more accurate to say that you *believe* that God commands men to kill others.

Thankfully, you have the protection of the reason and rationale of the secular world and the rule of law that prevents the religious beliefs of others to be imposed upon you.

[_Themis]

This does nothing to help you. You argued it would be good to murder if you think God tells you to. This is the dangerous thinking that gets people killed and raped every year. It's shows that God really is not the one coming up with this s***. I think God would easily see the problem with promoting this kind of thinking.

You're simply repeating yourself while ignoring the point which addresses it...all the while soley replying 'this does nothing for you'.

Not proof, but how you go about deciding what is from the HG and how you think you get the right interpretation. What methodologies you use, etc.

D&C 9:8-9

"But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.

But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, but you shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the thing which is wrong;"

OK. We seem to be discussing this on two threads, but then I guess they both started on about the Book of Mormon story of Nephi killing Laban.

I am going to assume this is the method you are talking about for your own experiences, or at least similar to that. In the other thread I listed these as very difficult to know one is getting the right interpretation, especially since we are taught exactly the interpretation we should get. It's also a circular argument. I wonder how many of us as children were praying about the Book of Mormon and then waiting to get that burning in the bosom. This kind of experience involving burning of the bosom, and other feelings, thoughts, emotions, etc seem to be quite common around the world, and people seem to get all kinds of different messages, some about objective truth claims.

I haven't seen such evidence. What if they are no longer alive? How will you prove to me their love for each other?

I think you have plenty of evidence from people in your own life. For those who are dead you could read journals, letters and such. I am sure they are plenty in which we don't have enough evidence. So what. I have already shown you can prove love.

How do you know those feeling are real? Are these universal definitions, or individual?

All they need to be is individual, since that was what you were asking about.

[_sock puppet]

So, for TBMs it comes down to this:

As flies to wanton boys are we to th' gods.
They kill us for their sport.

Gloucester, King Lear, Act 4, Scene 1

It reminds me of this...

That means that our whole solar system could be, like one tiny atom in the fingernail of some other giant being.

This is too much!

That means one tiny atom in my fingernail could be--could be one little tiny universe.

Could l buy some pot from you?

Pinto, Animal House

[_Gordon]

[So in the case of Mark Hoffman, they had the ability to catch him with their mind reading powers, but weren't paying attention.
I guess that those not paying attention include the lord.

I was referring to those who believed Hoffman...while LDS leaders aren't infallible, I don't recall Hinckley saying he thought they were genuine. Yes, he bought them, but it seems as if he was simply trying to determine their authenticity, and relied on the judgements of experts, rather than seeking divine counsel on the matter.

Again, let my servant John C. Bennett help you in your labor in sending my word to the kings and people of the earth, and stand by you, even you my servant Joseph Smith, in the hour of affliction; and his reward shall not fail if he receive acounsel. And for his love he shall be great, for he shall be mine if he do this, saith the Lord. I have seen the work which he hath done, which I accept if he continue, and will crown him with blessings and great glory. (D&C 124:16–17.)

The statements concerning Bennett came with provisos...which, obviously, he didn't follow. If you're implying that the Lord didn't know what would happen, I would refer to Judas. He was hand-picked by Jesus, but still betrayed Him. The Lord knows what we will do, but still gives us opportunity to prove ourselves.

[_Gordon]

a. Thou shalt not covet
b. Thou shalt covet the brass plates

a. Thou shalt not kill
b. Thou shalt kill Laban

a. Thou shalt not steal
b. Thou shalt steal the plates

a. Thou shalt be polygamous
b. Thou shalt not be polygamous

a. Thou shalt not give black people the Priesthood
b. Thou shalt give black people the Priesthood

a. Jesus will be born in Jerusalem
b. Jesus will be born in Bethlehem

a. There is but one God
b. There are lots of Gods and you can be one too

and on...
and on...

Sure, the Lord gives different commands to differing people at different times, but not conflicting or contradictory ones. Most of your 'examples', though, are simply incorrect interpretations/presentations of what transpired.

[_Gordon]

What is this G-d thing all about?

Is writing God or god a blashphemy?

Or a new principle revealed by President Newsroom?

Does this really bother you?