Laban's death defies logic and reality

[_Sethbag]

I'm not 100% sure I would have, but probably. I took it all seriously. It took many years and a few cracks in the armor, like a belief in evolution and an old Earth, to undermine my faith to the point where I was willing to even examine it and ask myself to justify it in light of the evidence I was finally taking seriously. Who knows what I might have been willing to do as a TBM in my late teens/early 20s?

[Guest]

Let me just say that I would never do nothing rash because some yokel said so. If you could imagine actually knowing God and HE says do it then the test is truly on. Not just thinking so. It has to have credence, clear as crystal, with an exalted purpose that constrains the soul to act. Like Nephi.

So...............what about killing Laban, now that you understand better?
Of course you probably do not understand any better. That that dumbness thing I was talking about.

[Anonymous]

Mooseman, people with direct communications with God and a crystal clear understanding of his will are a dime a dozen in this world. Take a number.

[_Mooseman]

Mooseman, people with crystal clear understanding and direct communications with God are a dime a dozen in this world. Take a number.

Name two. Your just sayin'. That's what goes on here. Lot's of just sayin'

[_Drifting]

Well, here's exhibit f*****g A my friends: Mooseman. The man who is willing to bring his love of God to the fray and do whatever he has to, to including killing someone if they get in the way of executing God's will.

You would not kill someone for God obviously. You have no love for him.
Would you kill someone for your wife, child, brother? If needful? hmm?

This is why the haters of God
have no say in religious discussions. They can only poison the well.

The first commandment is not subject to the laws and civility of men. If is does not rise above all it has no virtue. You cannot compare a genuine love of God that sacrifices all for that love enduring to the end with some crazed sociopath. Get real. But then you are God dumb. So I have to suffer your pathetic lack.

You miss the problem.

How can you tell it's God (He of 'Thou Shalt Not Kill' fame) saying "kill him"?

[_Racer]

The love of God above all else sanctifies whatever you must do.
Carp all you want whining about how unrighteous it is and how evil of God to kill anyone. Shut up and take your medicine. Either stand up to the first commandment and bring the love of God to the fray or lose all credibility in the argument.

Holy s***, dude. Remind me never to run into you in a dark alley. Who knows, you might think God wants you to strike down this apostate, and apparently you're the kind who would "bring the love of God to the fray" and do it!

You are one crazy, sick son of a bitch Mooseman.

Mooseman,

Have you heard of Sharia Law and the concept of honor killings? You should look into them. Sharia employs numerous ways to inflict violence and death upon others in order to bring the righteous love of God to fray. I think you would enjoy it.

[_Darth J]

Either stand up to the first commandment and bring the love of God to the fray or lose all credibility in the argument.

Yes, when the discussion is about the merits of killing someone because the voices in your head told you to, it's important to retain credibility in the argument.

This is why the haters of God
have no say in religious discussions. They can only poison the well.

And the corollary, that religious zealots have no say in discussions about the real world and objective reality.

[_Spanner]

The Book of Zelph explained so many of these problems for me.

Sadly, it is not available to read online any more.

Here you go. Wayback Machine to the rescue!

That is so cool, thanks Cylon!

[_just me]

Mooseman, people with crystal clear understanding and direct communications with God are a dime a dozen in this world. Take a number.

Name two. Your just sayin'. That's what goes on here. Lot's of just sayin'

Nightlion
Warren Jeffs
The Pope
Thomas Monson

[_Chap]

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Would you kill someone for your wife, child, brother? If needful? hmm?...

Hi Nightlion.

hmm?