Christian Universalism seems to make people mad

[_jo1952]

Hi jo ~

I'm sorry I didn't recall interacting with you on the other board. After Nightlion mentioned you, I went back through my content and saw where we did converse on a couple of threads. I hope our exchanges were all pleasant :)

Cate

Hi Cate!

As I recall, they were always pleasant!!

Blessings,

jo

[_Nightlion]

My beliefs about Universalism have always been in my mind and my heart, even when, as a child, I didn't even know there was a term for what I already believed to be True. What I had not realized until fairly recently is that for Universalism to be "True" Universalism would mean that even Lucifer and the third of the host of Heaven who followed him, would also need to eventually become One again with Father and with Christ and the rest of us.

When were we all ONE with the Father? I wonder if we already agree here.
Do you know the fate of SoP?
All of those who fell with Lucifer are SoP and will meet the same fate.
I believe that individually any of these, even Satan, can eventually become one with God. NOT in this generation of the heavens however.

[_madeleine]

. I'm not sure how Mormons deal with Christian Universalism,

The second anointing comes to mind.

but I can tell you that saying that on a Catholic board is going to cause people to go ballistic even though many of the church fathers such as Gregory of Nyssa and Origen taught it. It seems strange to me that people would get upset at the idea that eventually everyone could be saved.

Neither ECF is defining Catholic doctrine (east or west), but giving an expression based on the hope that hell is empty. Hope, having a name, Jesus Christ. Hope, not being something that is wished for such as a hope for a white Christmas, but hope that is sure, as in the hope of a sunrise in the dark of night. We have Reason to hope that hell is empty, but it is not a doctrine that it is (or will be).

For in hope we are saved. Rm 8:24

[_Brackite]

Christian Universalism Theology is very compatible with contemporary NDE accounts.

NDEs and Universal Salvation:
http://near-death.com/experiences/origen021.html

[_jo1952]

Christian Universalism Theology is very compatible with contemporary NDE accounts.

NDEs and Universal Salvation:
http://near-death.com/experiences/origen021.html

Great link Brackite! I have bookmarked it and added yet another book to my "must read" list. I believe in Universalism; but take it a step further. I believe that at some point in the eternities that Satan and the third of the host of heaven who followed him, will also ultimately be saved. I disagree with groups within any religion who hold to an exclusive theology. Thank you for sharing.

Blessings,

jo