KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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Re: KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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bcspace wrote:
It's funny how the church preaches free agency, but sensors the sh*t out of everything whenever possible.


How is this an example of censorship or the removal of agency? If the owner of a company does not want to air a show, that's his agency. Go make your own tv station and air the program.


Racer wrote:It's removing choice, which is the antithesis of the LDS plan of salvation. Who knows what the public sentiment would have been as they are not allowing the "free market" to dictate. My feelings are the show will be crap like most sitcoms that launch and fail after the first season, but let the process run its course by allowing viewers to decide.

You are right, Racer. It smacks of the plan the Mormons told us that Lucifer presented in the preexistence.

Perhaps these days of its smothering mores in certain locales, it ought to be The Church of Lucifer of Latter-day Saints.
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Haha, I've been out of Utah for almost ten years and forgot about censorship. I sometimes listen to a morning show on the radio that would be banned in Utah after two minutes air time.

I guess Utah viewers can't decide for themselves to switch the channel, they need big brother to do it for them.

Anyone up for burning some books later?
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i generally give the church a pass when people criticize them for being too corporate. and i credit them for divesting from many past business ventures that weren't tied to their religious mission.

but what i still don't understand is why Bonneville is under their for-profit arm? if you need a tv station for spreading the gospel, why in hell would you want it to be an NBC affiliate?
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Re: KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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How is this an example of censorship or the removal of agency? If the owner of a company does not want to air a show, that's his agency. Go make your own tv station and air the program.

It's removing choice, which is the antithesis of the LDS plan of salvation.


By forcing the station to air it, you're removing someone else's choice.
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bcspace wrote:
By forcing the station to air it, you're removing someone else's choice.


Whose agency is.being violated by a corporation having to air a show?

Are you going to a corporation has free agency as understood in LDS doctrine? Will the corporation go to hell.
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Whose agency is.being violated by a corporation having to air a show?


Those who run the corporation. I am the CEO of my own small corporation. Should I be forced to sell products and services I disagree with?
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bcspace wrote:Those who run the corporation. I am the CEO of my own small corporation. Should I be forced to sell products and services I disagree with?


Nice strawman. You are not the corporation, therefore your agency is not violated. You are only an Officer of the corporation.
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bcspace wrote:
Whose agency is.being violated by a corporation having to air a show?


Those who run the corporation. I am the CEO of my own small corporation. Should I be forced to sell products and services I disagree with?

Do you have an exclusive territory franchise, like KSL has of NBC in Utah, and thus by your decision you are interfering with the choice of people living in that territory to choose offerings from your franchisor?
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Re: KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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KSL is being pretty stupid about this, and very inconsistent.

They pull this comedy about a committed gay couple and the woman having a baby for them. Yet last year they aired a musical drama called "Smash," which not only showed a naked couple having sex (with their naughty bits strategically covered, of course) but also showed two gay men passionately kissing and then heading off to bed... both more than once.

These kinds of portrayals are highly unlikely to happen in a comedy.
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Re: KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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Those who run the corporation. I am the CEO of my own small corporation. Should I be forced to sell products and services I disagree with?

Nice strawman. You are not the corporation, therefore your agency is not violated. You are only an Officer of the corporation.


No strawman. I decide what the company is and does.

Do you have an exclusive territory franchise, like KSL has of NBC in Utah, and thus by your decision you are interfering with the choice of people living in that territory to choose offerings from your franchisor?


Are you trying to tell me that people can't change the channel or create their own media? Are you trying to tell me that I can file a legal complaint and my local NBA team will be broadcast on "free" TV again instead of me having to buy cable?
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