Lance Starr Defends Ad Hominem Attacks

[_stemelbow]

Sheesh guys, all I did was open this thread and got such a chuckle, in a sad sort of way, out of what I saw as hypocrisy from Kish. I posted an lol. When he asked for clarification I gave it to him, and he took exception. My apologies for trying to help the guy out.

I'm sure many of you find yourselves in the same predicament--"can't stand how some LDS folks behave, even though I behave the same way. It makes me angry and forces me onto a board which largely houses other like-minded folks wherein we complain forever about how some LDS guy said something a little harsh. While I'm equally impolite and uncivil I am only that way on this discussion board so I give myself a pass, but them Mormon folks who are uncivil and impolite will feel my wrath anywho. I can't wait their utter demise. It'll make me so happy. Then I won't come off as such a hostile person on MDB. Oh, and any LDS person who points out my hypocrisy will receive some bitter language in return as I grasp at any explanation I can to give myself a pass."

Please give it up...you are only hurting yourselves and those who enjoy the idea of venting their frustrations on places like this. I say this for your own good.

[_stemelbow]

stemelbow's actions on this thread have a weird, Tweedle-Dee/Tweelde-Dum quality about them. He calls Kish "uncivil" while acting in a grossly uncivil way himself, and says that he "hopes it helps" with Kish's "hypocrisy." Oddly, stemelbow thinks that Kish is a "hypocrite" because (allegedly) he (i.e., Kish) is calling Mopologists "uncivil" when he himself has (allegedly) been "uncivil." So stem is complaining about Kish's complaining that the Mopologists are "uncivil." Kish, apparently, is a hypocrite for doing this, but stemelbow somehow isn't.

Did you catch all of that? It's like the Eames's film Powers of Ten if it had been made by a severely brain-damaged Jack Chick. You sort of have to wonder if stemelbow got lead poisoning as a kid.

You are a goofball, Scratch. I'm surprised people take you so seriously. Kish is the one who complained about someone behaving uncivil and impolite all the while he even seems to concede he'll be uncivil and impolite at times. WE all can be. You see, it was Kish' hypocrisy that gave me a chuckle--his dramatic "how can anyone be uncivil and impolite in adult society" thing was adorable but it bites his own caboose, if you will. Now, I realize this comes off as harsh, but that is stock and trade here. I figured he can take it, or won't listen otherwise. I only hope the best for the guy. burying himself in hypocrisy in hopes to castigate some LDS folks seems, well, unhealthy. I hope healthy behavior from him.

[_David A. Bednar]

God bless you, Stemelbow, for your willingness to stand for the truth.

The Brethren love you and are mindful of the great work you are doing here.

As always, your brother in the harness of love and service to our Lord's kingdom,

Elder David A. Bednar

[_stemelbow]

God bless you, Stemelbow, for your willingness to stand for the truth.

The Brethren love you and are mindful of the great work you are doing here.

As always, your brother in the harness of love and service to our Lord's kingdom,

Elder David A. Bednar

lol you're goofy.

[_Doctor Scratch]

stemelbow's actions on this thread have a weird, Tweedle-Dee/Tweelde-Dum quality about them. He calls Kish "uncivil" while acting in a grossly uncivil way himself, and says that he "hopes it helps" with Kish's "hypocrisy." Oddly, stemelbow thinks that Kish is a "hypocrite" because (allegedly) he (i.e., Kish) is calling Mopologists "uncivil" when he himself has (allegedly) been "uncivil." So stem is complaining about Kish's complaining that the Mopologists are "uncivil." Kish, apparently, is a hypocrite for doing this, but stemelbow somehow isn't.

Did you catch all of that? It's like the Eames's film Powers of Ten if it had been made by a severely brain-damaged Jack Chick. You sort of have to wonder if stemelbow got lead poisoning as a kid.

You are a goofball, Scratch.

Is that preferable to whatever it is that you are, I wonder?

But let's get back to the topic at hand. Do you agree, D.T.A.B./stemelbow, with Lance Starr, that argumentum ad hominem is a good and useful tactic?

[_sock puppet]

Kish is the one who complained about someone behaving uncivil and impolite all the while he even seems to concede he'll be uncivil and impolite at times. WE all can be. You see, it was Kish' hypocrisy that gave me a chuckle--his dramatic "how can anyone be uncivil and impolite in adult society" thing was adorable but it bites his own caboose, if you will.

And so, stem, with your hypocrisy brush you so too paint the FP/12 after each GC right? After all, we all have good and bad impulses. So when at GC they condemn 'bad' and 'evil', those FP/12 are being rank hypocrites, right? That's the idiotic brush stroke with which you are trying to claim the Reverend is a hypocrite. So, please, prove to us your own lack of duplicity and treat us to links here to the LDS.org feedback pages on the Monday after GC where you call out the FP/12 by names as hypocrites for having spoken at GC about sin when they themselves are not free from it or perfect.

The proof will be in the pudding--if you don't, then you will show your biased duplicity. (But I won't be holding my breath because I already know you're nothing but hack that is just trolling here.)

[_Kishkumen]

A hyper-reaction to perceived hypocrisy is the stuff of teenage angst about life.

I think that about sums it up.

[_sock puppet]

A hyper-reaction to perceived hypocrisy is the stuff of teenage angst about life.

I think that about sums it up.

Reverend, respectfully, I must take exception. I am sure that a substantial portion of teenagers, even those with angst about life, could see right through stem's idiocy (staged or genuine) and do not indulge in it themselves.

[Guest]

A hyper-reaction to perceived hypocrisy is the stuff of teenage angst about life.

I think that about sums it up.

There's no "hyper-reaction" here. I offered an "lol" to your hypocrisy and when asked to explain I did so. The "hyper-reaction" is coming from your camp, ironically.

In a sad sort of way I still get a chuckle out of your dramatic rant about not understanding why grownups will be uncivil and impolite at times. Why, of course, even you, the guy sitting atop his own created perch to mock and deride others, can be uncivil and impolite at times. Additionally you have gone on record defending you and others here who do behave uncivil and impolite saying, essentially, it's okay if you guys do it because you guys just behave uncivil and impolite in the adult society, but your adult society doesn't publish your impolite and uncivil stuff.

But your comments will keep coming, I'm sure, even though you've put me on ignore. I think it's eating at you a bit, and rightfully so, Perhaps you won't be so prone to the hostility, granted it's pretty heavy here so many seem fond of it. Peace to you.

[_stemelbow]

And so, stem, with your hypocrisy brush you so too paint the FP/12 after each GC right? After all, we all have good and bad impulses. So when at GC they condemn 'bad' and 'evil', those FP/12 are being rank hypocrites, right? That's the idiotic brush stroke with which you are trying to claim the Reverend is a hypocrite. So, please, prove to us your own lack of duplicity and treat us to links here to the LDS.org feedback pages on the Monday after GC where you call out the FP/12 by names as hypocrites for having spoken at GC about sin when they themselves are not free from it or perfect.

The proof will be in the pudding--if you don't, then you will show your biased duplicity. (But I won't be holding my breath because I already know you're nothing but hack that is just trolling here.)

I do believe you have missed the point, Sock Puppet, but you will continue to whine about me not being as smart as you or whatever as if that means anything other than your effort to continue on the gravy train designed to isolate, mock, and bully an LDS poster. When at GC has anyone gotten rather dramatic by saying something like this, "I really don't understand what is so hard to understand about the usefulness, nay, importance, of never once sinning, even though we all sin in adult society. It is so basic a principle, inculcated in all faiths and even in public schooling, that one would think it should go without saying. How these gentlemen can sit around pontificating about the usefulness and necessity of being a person who sins, like everyone else who has ever lived saved Jesus, shows exactly how bankrupt their thinking is.

I guess the Golden Rule no longer applies to them. Why? They're special."?

Now, I"m thinking that you will find things you think are great examples of a match, but I also think such attempts on your part will be rather contrived. But by all means surprise me. I'm wrong quite often.