KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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Re: KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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bcspace wrote:Those who run the corporation. I am the CEO of my own small corporation. Should I be forced to sell products and services I disagree with?

Nice strawman. You are not the corporation, therefore your agency is not violated. You are only an Officer of the corporation.


No strawman. I decide what the company is and does.


Do you have an exclusive territory franchise, like KSL has of NBC in Utah, and thus by your decision you are interfering with the choice of people living in that territory to choose offerings from your franchisor?


bcspace wrote:Are you trying to tell me that people can't change the channel or create their own media? Are you trying to tell me that I can file a legal complaint and my local NBA team will be broadcast on "free" TV again instead of me having to buy cable?

Try answering my question instead of dodging it. If you are capable of answering a question (I know, not something taught you in bishop training or found in the CHI), then you'll know what the point is.
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krose wrote:KSL is being pretty stupid about this, and very inconsistent.

They pull this comedy about a committed gay couple and the woman having a baby for them. Yet last year they aired a musical drama called "Smash," which not only showed a naked couple having sex (with their naughty bits strategically covered, of course) but also showed two gay men passionately kissing and then heading off to bed... both more than once.

These kinds of portrayals are highly unlikely to happen in a comedy.


I'm guessing the key phrase in your post is 'last year'.
There wasn't a high profile Mormon running for President last year.
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Re: KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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Nomomo wrote:http://www.deseretnews.com/m/article/865561185
KSL-TV will not air "The New Normal," the NBC sitcom slated for a Sept. 11 debut about a single mother's journey through life as a surrogate mother for a gay couple.


Good.
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Re: KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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Drifting wrote:
krose wrote:KSL is being pretty stupid about this, and very inconsistent.

They pull this comedy about a committed gay couple and the woman having a baby for them. Yet last year they aired a musical drama called Smash, which not only showed a naked couple having sex (with their naughty bits strategically covered, of course) but also showed two gay men passionately kissing and then heading off to bed... both more than once.

These kinds of portrayals are highly unlikely to happen in a comedy.

I'm guessing the key phrase in your post is 'last year'.
There wasn't a high profile Mormon running for President last year.

The popular show is returning for its second season this year. But it's on Monday, so perhaps they assume no one in Utah will be watching, because of Family Home Evening.

Also returning for a second season on KSL is Whitney, a comedy about an unmarried couple who live together and are strongly committed to never getting married. Sexual topics abound, but of course few of them relate to gay sex, so...

And I wonder if the good folks there have ever taken a look at the subject matter of their long-term hit, Law and Order: SVU? That's some truly disturbing stuff.

Of course, if they really wanted to protect their viewers from harmful material, they would refuse to air Celebrity Apprentice.
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From the "Did You Know" file...

Ann Romney's favorite TV show is Modern Family. Luckily for her, it's an ABC show, not NBC, and she doesn't live in Utah. That one would never have gotten past the KSL gay-content censors.

People article
Show creator Steve Levitan is flattered by Romney's comments and posted a special invitation to her on his Twitter account.

"Thrilled Ann Romney says ModFam is her favorite show," Levitan posted. "We'll offer her the role of officiant at Mitch & Cam's wedding. As soon as it's legal."

Mitchell (Jesse Tyler Ferguson) and Cameron (Eric Stonestreet) are a gay couple on the show, and they are raising a young daughter, Lily.


Ann isn't alone. The Obamas like the show as well.
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Homophobia seems the the most obvious explanation considering what else they will air. I could see how the LDS Powers-that-Be at KSL might also have some prejudice toward Andrew Rannells in virtue of his performances in the Book of Mormon musical.

Anyway, I find it hard to believe that this show is especially objectionable to their audience. I watched the pilot online and it doesn't really add up that they'd block this, but then air Whitney, Days of our Lives, SNL, and L&O. Incidentally, looking at NBC's lineup, it's no wonder I didn't notice until now that I don't even get NBC here. Boring.

Also, presumably, they have the same target audience as the other network affiliates in SLC. Did the Salt Lake ABC affiliate ban Desperate Housewives because they though their viewership would object? Did the SLC Fox affilate ban The Family Guy and The Simpsons for those reasons? Is this really any more objectionable than those shows?
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A couple of weeks ago, Wade Englund started one of his pseudo-intellectual gay threads, this one with the stated purpose to, “focus on exposing the processes and strategies of disinformation in relation to homosexual issue.”

According to Wade, the enemy of righteousness is orchestrating the implementation of a deliberate strategy to, “get decent and oft reasonable people to see down as up, bad as good, and abnormal and dysfunction as normal and healthy, and take what was once consider a mental illness (mistakenly in my opinion) and now celebrating it as desirable.”

The strategy that Wade imagines entails four steps:

1. Pervasive visibility
2. Accentuate the positive
3. Sympathy and pity ploys
4. Celebrity factor

Item #2 on the list means gay activists “have attempted to carefully control the public narrative, through editorial intervention in news and magazine coverage and production of gay-friendly TV shows and movies, so as to, for the most part, present a favorable homosexual image.”

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/586 ... formation/

Maybe the church doesn’t want to broadcast this show to combat the processes and strategies that Wade imagines?
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Re: KSL won't air 'The New Normal'

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angsty wrote:I watched the pilot online and it doesn't really add up that they'd block this, but then air Whitney, Days of our Lives, SNL, and L&O.

An episode of Saturday Night Live offended KSL several years back (I think it was a skit about Mormons), and they have not carried it since. We have to tune to the CW station to see it.

Also, presumably, they have the same target audience as the other network affiliates in Salt Lake City. Did the Salt Lake ABC affiliate ban Desperate Housewives because they though their viewership would object? Did the Salt Lake City Fox affilate ban The Family Guy and The Simpsons for those reasons? Is this really any more objectionable than those shows?

The only other instance of local censorship I can recall was by Channel 4, the ABC affiliate, some time back. I was thinking NYPD Blue, but I think it may have been something else they considered too edgy for our eyes and ears.

Last year KSL banned The Playboy Club because they "didn't want to be associated with pornography." In past years they have chosen not to air Coupling (an awful copy of the funny BBC series) and the cartoon called God, the Devil and Bob.
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