Creedal Trinity misunderstood by LDS
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Yes, God knew Jeremiah before by foreknowledge, but that doesn't explain how all the sons of God could shout for joy before the world was unless they existed before the world was!
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gdemetz wrote:You guys are really reaching now, and twisting the scriptures drastically! How many babies get sick and die? Are they being punished by God for their wickedness? Give me a break! Yes, they are covered by the atonement of Christ and that is the official church doctrine, and it is straight from the Book of Mormon!
Show me in the scriptures where it says anyone of any age who was drowned in the flood was anything other than wicked.
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Drifting wrote:gdemetz wrote:You guys are really reaching now, and twisting the scriptures drastically! How many babies get sick and die? Are they being punished by God for their wickedness? Give me a break! Yes, they are covered by the atonement of Christ and that is the official church doctrine, and it is straight from the Book of Mormon!
Show me in the scriptures where it says anyone of any age who was drowned in the flood was anything other than wicked.
It does not say that, nor should it....God's motive was clear, His intention was clear, and His judgment is without question.
To question it in the manner that you will simply keeps you off the boat.
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subgenius wrote:It does not say that, nor should it....God's motive was clear, His intention was clear, and His judgment is without question.
To question it in the manner that you will simply keeps you off the boat.
What boat?
The other thread (where you now have your ass in your hands from several posters handing it to you) has shown there 'don't be no ark'...
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What boat? Drifting, have you read the Bible?
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gdemetz wrote:What boat? Drifting, have you read the Bible?
You may want to re read my post as you clearly missed its point.
The Ark in the Bible is part of it that is meant to be taken figuratively NOT literally.

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I don't know where you came up with that Idea! The ark was literal.
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gdemetz wrote:I don't know where you came up with that Idea! The ark was literal.
What about the submarines in the Book of Mormon ?
One Christian asked about the account of submarines in the Book of Mormon, and I thought I'd put up this in response. The story of the Jaredite subs is found in the Book of Ether in the Book of Mormon.
In regard to the Book of Mormon account of the Jaredite subs, one former Mormon who is also a scholar, has written:
"Despite taking a number of classes, reading many books, and attending a workshop at San Francisco State University on critical thinking, I somehow never applied logic nor critical thinking to my religion! It was as though I had a switch in my brain that was able to apply critical thinking to almost everything else but then shut itself off when it came to religion.
For example, how could I have ever taken seriously the Book of Mormon story about the Jaredites building 8 wooden submarines with a "stoppable hole" in the top and bottom. These submarines (the length of a tree) were then filled with Jaredite "flocks and herds" and presumably enough food and fresh water to last 344 days at sea! (Ether 6:2-12) And what about human and animal needs for fresh air and sunlight? Since these submarines were under the water much of the time, the "stoppable holes" would have to stay shut. What about human and animal excrement? Even a few days in one of these underwater stockyards would have been fatal for both humans and animals! " (Arza Evans)
http://www.exmormonscholarstestify.org/arza-evans.html)
Frankly, critical thinking doesn't seem to abound among Mormons. The submarine story has to be one of the most ludicrous found in the Book of Mormon, along with the cumoms and cureloms, and Nephite chariots and steel swords! You'd think that educated people would take a clue!
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Submarines, Mittens? Give me a break! I think that you really know that they weren't! That is just poisonous anti propaganda!
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There were no submarines mentioned in the Book of Mormon, Mittens! That is merely anti Mormon propaganda!