Yesterday in Church . . .
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How kind you are consiglieri. I wish I had known more people in the church like yourself. As it was, I knew some very, very bad examples of what it means to be a Mormon and a human being. I am sorry that their distorted and ignorant understanding of Mormonism, faith, belief in God and everything else that goes with religion was advanced as the authoritative one---so much so that I didn't get much of a glimpse of other possibilities.
Of course, these types are still around, some in actual positions of institutional church power, and some in their self-appointed virtual positions of faux power online.
Fortunately, out of some marvelous twist of fate, or perhaps the hand of god, I've since been able to study a great deal of Mormon history and meet many more Mormons whose kindness, intelligence and generosity has tipped the scales back in the proper direction.
Of course, these types are still around, some in actual positions of institutional church power, and some in their self-appointed virtual positions of faux power online.
Fortunately, out of some marvelous twist of fate, or perhaps the hand of god, I've since been able to study a great deal of Mormon history and meet many more Mormons whose kindness, intelligence and generosity has tipped the scales back in the proper direction.
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You, Good Sir, have balls of brick and mortar.
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:You, Good Sir, have balls of brick and mortar.
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ouch, that sounds like a very bad thing
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bcspace wrote:In our lesson Sunday, the undercurrent against the Democrats was very strong (and rightfully so) when we were discussing the murder of Pahoran.
Pahoran is dead!?!?! YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!
I always hated that bastard.
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"Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death."
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SteelHead wrote:If prosperity is the reward for obedience to god, then god must love muslim oil sheiks.
Muslims who benefit financially from the extraction of oil and gas reserves in their countries certainly believe that Allah loves them.
So do the Muslims who are willing to blow themselves up in order to kill the enemies of Allah.
Religion is wonderful, is it not?
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
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bcspace wrote:In our lesson Sunday, the undercurrent against the Democrats was very strong (and rightfully so) when we were discussing the murder of Pahoran. The teacher was trying to get across the notion of political unity but the conversation almost got to the point of asking the question of when it is okay for Mormons to rebel against the government.
Mormons rebelling against the government because of a dead Pahoran? You'd think they would have focused their anger on the new upstart Maxwell Administration instead.
by the way, I am very heartened when fellow members like Consiglieri and his ward mate stand up and point out that some of our assumptions, like prosperity equating with righteousness and poverty being linked with wickedness, need reassessment based on being faulty.
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As usual, the perversion of the anti-mormon liberal mind perverts basic principles, using a little truth to tell great lies.
What sad Consig and others in this thread are IGNORING is that the "Pride Cycle" is only ONE PART of life and the teaching of experiences and principles.
It's ONE PARTICULAR LESSON that fits ONE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE....
We also teach the story of JOB!!!!
Each principle is TRUE depending on the circumstance and God's Will and purposes.
The pride cycle is a true principle. God WILL bless the righteous, and yes sometimes he also provides trials, and yes, the wicked can also seem "blessed" and they think it's due to their own righteousness, like you all believe, and like my ex-wife believes. But God knows.... and you know... and I know.... We aren't fooled.
Why must you all allow HATE to blind your basic logic and reasoning skills??? :(
What sad Consig and others in this thread are IGNORING is that the "Pride Cycle" is only ONE PART of life and the teaching of experiences and principles.
It's ONE PARTICULAR LESSON that fits ONE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE....
We also teach the story of JOB!!!!
Each principle is TRUE depending on the circumstance and God's Will and purposes.
The pride cycle is a true principle. God WILL bless the righteous, and yes sometimes he also provides trials, and yes, the wicked can also seem "blessed" and they think it's due to their own righteousness, like you all believe, and like my ex-wife believes. But God knows.... and you know... and I know.... We aren't fooled.
Why must you all allow HATE to blind your basic logic and reasoning skills??? :(
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I am depressed to learn, from internal evidence in his last posting, that ldsfaqs is not a high school student.
I thought he had at least that excuse.
I thought he had at least that excuse.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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ldsfaqs wrote:As usual, the perversion of the anti-mormon liberal mind perverts basic principles, using a little truth to tell great lies.
What sad Consig and others in this thread are IGNORING is that the "Pride Cycle" is only ONE PART of life and the teaching of experiences and principles.
It's ONE PARTICULAR LESSON that fits ONE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE....
We also teach the story of JOB!!!!
Each principle is TRUE depending on the circumstance and God's Will and purposes.
The pride cycle is a true principle. God WILL bless the righteous, and yes sometimes he also provides trials, and yes, the wicked can also seem "blessed" and they think it's due to their own righteousness, like you all believe, and like my ex-wife believes. But God knows.... and you know... and I know.... We aren't fooled.
Why must you all allow HATE to blind your basic logic and reasoning skills??? :(
Why must you judge us?
Remember Uchdorf told you to "Stop it!"
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Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
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Ok, now I really am thinking LDSFAQs is just a shill to piss people off and make the LDS look bad.
Get ye behind me Satan!
Get ye behind me Satan!
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