Henry McClean wrote:This is my 13th and final post on this message board. When I read in the rules that "anything goes," I was hoping to find a place on the internet for an open minded discussion. I opened the OP with a glimpse on where I stand on the Church just to give you all some context and most of you can't let go of that. My faith is very personal to me and my purpose in coming here was not to justify it to random people on the internet. I guarantee you that God exists. I question things about the Church. But you people here are closed minded or fixated enough on the subject that it is all you want to talk about. Talk about closed minded. Sophistry is alive and well. Whatever the truth may be, this much I know: this place is full of more negative energy than almost any place I've encountered on the internet. Finding this place and feeling like I fit in, to a certain extent, is a good wake up call to me that I need to get outside and feel the sunlight on my face from time to time.
I actually changed my mind on the church, going from TBM to apostate and atheist critic. Is that not open-minded enough for you?
At any rate, I'm willing to be convinced by you, provided you can show compelling argument and evidence to back up your positions.
I don't know if you were expecting people to agree with you just because you said so or what. Is that what you think "open-minded" means?
In terms of Secret Combinations, I suggest you people wake up. The U.S. government has been experimenting on its citizens since the early 1950s. The existence of MK Ultra and programs like it is verified as a matter of public record. The fact that groups like the Bilderbergs, the Council on Foreign Relations, and other groups meet periodically to direct their collective power towards specific goals is also a matter of public record. The fact that every Republican Presidential candidate between Nixon and Bush 2 attended the pagan ceremonies at Bohemian Grove is fairly well known. Did Mitt Romney go to Bohemian Grove? I don't know. But it would have been nice to compare notes but people couldn't stay on topic long enough to have a discussion about it. What about Elder Pace's memo in 1990 about Satanic Ritual Abuse in Utah? Before I knew anything about it, back in the early 90s, I was on a walk with my girlfriend near dusk in the gully below Tanner Park in Salt Lake (let's be honest, we were looking for a place to make out). We turned a corner and came upon a guy dressed like a freaking warlock. Tim the Enchanter's avatar from Monty Python is not far from what the guy looked like. As soon as he saw us, he turned into some trees in the opposite direction. We were creeped out and high-tailed it out of there. I could go on and on. This stuff exists and folks need to wake up to it. Go watch the movie Network. If you think that Howard Beale's "come to Jesus" talk with the shadowy figure in the movie is purely fictional, then you understand little about how mind control works.
"And all we've got to say to you is good-bye."
I doubt that's all you've got to say, but whatever. Let's see.
Bohemain Grove? Check.
Satanic Ritual Abuse? Check.
MK Ultra? Check.
Bilderbergs? Check.
Council on Foreign Relations? Check.
You saw a guy dressed as a warlock? Check.
With all these, you're still only half a conspiracy theorist. You left out the New World Order, FEMA death camps, and the fact that the Social Security Adminstration just ordered 174,000 hollow-point pistol rounds. Also, remember to look into the secret communist plot to flouridate the water supply when you get a chance.
I'm sorry that your Mormon Discussions experience was not to your liking, and wish you luck in your future endeavors.