Church edits sleeves onto 7 year old

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Re: Church edits sleeves onto 7 year old

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Sophocles wrote:This seems to have more to do with image and style than modesty. I can't see a substantive difference between a dress with wide straps and no sleeves and one with those tiny little cap sleeves. It's just style. It's the fashion equivalent of abstaining from iced tea. It serves to differentiate Mormons from non-Mormons, and that's about it. The girl in a sleeveless dress doesn't suggest sexuality or immodesty so much as non-LDSness, and that's why it had to be altered. It's about promoting a brand image.


You are so smart. I think you are absolutely correct.

Oh. And control. It's also about control.
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If a four-year old can be immodest by wearing a sleeveless dress, think of how much worse it is for a 7 year old. That would put her on the fast track to becoming walking pornography.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:If a four-year old can be immodest by wearing a sleeveless dress, think of how much worse it is for a 7 year old. That would put her on the fast track to becoming walking pornography.

Unlike just me's new avatar, which is standing very still and so cannot be accused of being such porn. {{just me, I didn't expect such a clear and present opportunity, but there it is!}}
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cinepro wrote:Modesty is a tough issue, and I don't envy the adults who have to try and teach it. Luckily, my daughter seems inclined to make good choices so far (even if only to better judge the other girls :rolleyes: , but that's a different discussion).

But when I see what other girls are wearing at the schools, it's obvious some standards are needed, and few others are even trying to set them.

So while the Church may not always get it right (and the natural tendency towards Pharadisiacal ovecompensation may too often show itself), thank goodness they're at least trying.


Thing is you can do damage by trying. It seems to me that the methods the church uses results in a lot of undeeded guilt and arbitrary boundaries. Certainly there is a better way.
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malkie wrote:
Bob Loblaw wrote:If a four-year old can be immodest by wearing a sleeveless dress, think of how much worse it is for a 7 year old. That would put her on the fast track to becoming walking pornography.

Unlike why me's new avatar, which is standing very still and so cannot be accused of being such porn. {{why me, I didn't expect such a clear and present opportunity, but there it is!}}


Malkie, I will forgive you for your sins. I am "just me" NOT, I repeat, NOT "why me."
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just me wrote:
malkie wrote:Unlike why me's new avatar, which is standing very still and so cannot be accused of being such porn. {{why me, I didn't expect such a clear and present opportunity, but there it is!}}


Malkie, I will forgive you for your sins. I am "just me" NOT, I repeat, NOT "why me."
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<Drifting, squeamishly shuts his eyes>
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Bob Loblaw wrote:If a four-year old can be immodest by wearing a sleeveless dress, think of how much worse it is for a 7 year old. That would put her on the fast track to becoming walking pornography.

just me wrote:
malkie wrote:Unlike why me's new avatar, which is standing very still and so cannot be accused of being such porn. {{why me, I didn't expect such a clear and present opportunity, but there it is!}}


Malkie, I will forgive you for your sins. I am "just me" NOT, I repeat, NOT "why me."

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa (;=(

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Sorry Drifting - I understand your reaction too.

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<Drifting slowly opens one eye whilst breathing a quite sigh of relief>
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malkie wrote:Apologies to all, and sack-cloth and ashes for me.

In pennance I may go to church this Sunday.


As long as the sack-cloth is not made of light cotton.
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