Richard Sherlock Converts to Catholicism

[_Morley]

Just leave it alone and move on. Do you live in New York? Just enjoy the city.

Drink your own tea.

[_why me]

Just leave it alone and move on. Do you live in New York? Just enjoy the city.

Drink your own tea.

If I were spending my time being negative about a religion and doing it year after year, I think that I would commit myself to a nut house.

[_why me]

While you're at it, re-read Sherlock's blog post. How is this a reply to what I had to say? How is this a reply to anything Sherlock had to say?

Here is what he said:

And by “losing its way,” Mormons do not mean that the church suffered from human sinfulness or became too wedded to secular power. Christianity supposedly strayed so far that it was no longer Christianity. It did not merely require renewal, as St. Francis preached. It did not merely require a new vocabulary to express timeless truths, as Vatican II proclaimed. Mormons believe that the church—Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant visions alike—completely died and that Christianity required a “restoration” by God himself.

It is obvious that he is clueless of christian history. The religious wars in europe when catholics and protestants were killing each other could be a sign of a great apostacy. And the political intrigue in europe involving religion...could be a sign of apostacy. We just need to look how Lithuania became catholic and in fact, we can see just how latin america became catholic. Not exactly by choice. But our friend overlooks such details that maybe god was a little pissed at the religions which claimed to be followers of his son, Jesus Christ.

So, the bigger question is: knowing christian history, can an apostacy be claimed and can it be claimed that a restoration was necessary?

[_Morley]

I apologize to everyone on this thread for feeding the troll. Every time I do so, I think that this time might be different. But it never is.

It just never is.

[_MCB]

Those of us who have long experience with that troll forgive you. Sometimes it takes a while to realize how hopeless the whiner is.

[_Cicero]

Apologies in advance for my ignorance, but what is CAF?

[_MCB]

http://forums.catholic.com/forumdisplay.php?f=14

[_why me]

I apologize to everyone on this thread for feeding the troll. Every time I do so, I think that this time might be different. But it never is.

It just never is.

Of course calling someone a troll doesn't prove them wrong. But it is a nice deflect.

[_why me]

Apologies in advance for my ignorance, but what is CAF?

The discussion forum is talibanish toward catholicism. It is perfectly okay on that forum to be critical of all faiths except their own. At times, the antimormon catholics tend to bash the LDS church. But overlooked their own skeletons in their own closet.

How they can bash Mormons and Mormonism and not deal with child abuse in their own faith nor deal with their cloudy history is a mystery to me.

But MCB is a poster on that forum and maybe she can answer those points.

[_Blixa]

But you don't believe in god. Why bother?...

Blixa, you have written thousands of posts being critical of Mormonism. Why? Just leave it alone and move on. Do you live in New York? Just enjoy the city. True, people are dying left and right in that city from murder and mayhem just like the good old days of the 70's but your time will be better spent.

You don't read what other people write, do you? If you had any grasp of my posting history you'd know that I haven't spent the bulk of my time here being "critical of Mormonism." In fact, I'm not sure you even know what "Mormonism" is. Get this. It doesn't matter that I don't believe in God. It doesn't even matter whether I'm counted as a member on the roll books. I'm still a Mormon. And I'll venture that I'm more sincerely Mormon even now than you've ever been.

O’er my sins thou sit and moan:
Hast thou no sins of thy own?
O’er my sins thou sit and weep,
And lull thy own sins fast asleep.

Who the hell are you to tell me to leave my past and my history alone and "move on." Do you even know what it means to be a human being? Do you have any concept of the relation between history and memory? Have you ever read a book? You write as if you are completely ignorant of human imagination, creativity and struggle. You write as if it is unheard of for people to spend their whole lives working through complex questions of faith and doubt. You write as if you can't understand that people can love and hate something at the same time. You write as if you can't comprehend that critique is a dialectical process. You write as if you've never found delight in the study of history and culture. You write as if you do not know the thickets of the heart.