BCSpace wrote:This board generates a net profit for the Church as such things tend to drive new members into the Church and we no longer have to serve those who leave it because of this board and they never paid tithes and fasts anyway. It's a win/win.
Uh-huh. He's right, you know. I found the doctrinal basis for his claim. Here it is, so you all don't have to go find it.
faux D&C wrote:15 And if it so be that you should labor all your days in crying repentance unto this people, and bring, save it be one soul unto me, how great shall be your joy with him in the kingdom of my Father!
16 And now, if your joy will be great with one soul that you have brought unto me into the kingdom of my Father, how great will be your joy if you should apostatize and your criticisms shall induce many to seek out and join with the Mormons!
I can see the endless Celestial joygasm now at my opinions influence so many fellow homo sapiens to go seek out and join with the Mormons. I can hardly wait! Oh, actually, I can hardly wait. Preferably for quite some time. ;-)
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
bcspace wrote:I have that yes, but from where I stand, I can actually see the effect on the Church for many of these things.
And where do you stand that offers you anything other than an anecdotal viewpoint?
bcspace is a wannabe Church authority, who stands outside of the Church's official position on most items concerning Doctrine and believes all Mormon's should be Democrats if they wish to retain their Temple Recommends. He also does not believe in a literal flood but does believe the doctrine on blacks and the Priesthood and polygamy has never changed and remains doctrinal today.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
bcspace wrote:This board generates a net profit for the Church as such things tend to drive new members into the Church and we no longer have to serve those who leave it because of this board and they never paid tithes and fasts anyway. It's a win/win.
Bcspace, do you actually believe this? I became an unbeliever in 2002. I stopped attending church in 2006. Is it your belief that I have never in my life paid tithes and offerings?
Or perhaps you phrased it poorly. At any rate, you seem to know something about the tithing habits of unbelievers. Tell me, given the timetable above, at what point did I stop paying tithes and offerings—if I ever had paid them at all, I mean?
I roughly calculate that I gave six figures to the church in tithing, offerings and other donations. If I live to be an average age, the church will have lost out on $300-$400k.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. - The Dude
Don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just god when he's drunk - Tom Waits
It was less than one day in Marriot Hotel Budapest, for a temple president couple from Germany - paid by the church. We visited with them there. (He and his wife are our private acquaintance. When they were tourists in Hungary, we used to search the hostel for them. 25$ per day.)
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
bcspace wrote:This board generates a net profit for the Church as such things tend to drive new members into the Church and we no longer have to serve those who leave it because of this board and they never paid tithes and fasts anyway. It's a win/win.
There is the cost of losing oarsmen and having the boat drift to the right side. We then are forced to paddle endlessly in circles.
