Equality wrote:Ideas and practices not worthy of respect don't deserve respect merely because they are clothed in religious garb. Simply labeling something "religious" should not imbue it with immunity from discussion, criticism, or mockery. The religious should not be able to immunize their ideas and practices from criticism by talismanically invoking words like sacred, holy, and religious to describe them. Respect is earned. If ideas or practices are worthy of respect, they can certainly gain respect and maintain it on the merits, and not through the protestations of thin-skinned religious adherents who feel their views and behaviors ought to be afforded respect for no other reason than they carry a religious designation.
Bullcrap. The person who did this was mean spirited and spiteful and full of hate. But that person knows this already. If a group considers a ceremony sacred and it entails promises to their god, I say leave them alone and let them worship how they please. Certainly not post it on youtube and enjoy the mocking. The least the person can do is to disable the comments section. But the person enjoys the mocking of the ceremony and wishes to cause as much hurt as possible to the Mormons who consider the ceremony sacred.
Your mocking of my sacred, holy, religious beliefs is hurtful and offensive to me. You should apologize and let me worship as I please. My worship is done in the form of posting on Internet discussion boards like this one. If you don't let me post without criticism, then you are not respecting my religious beliefs, which is very hurtful and offensive to me.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
why me wrote: Good for you. Have you mocked the jews in my thread for rocking back and forth? Praying to a wall? And wearing special clothes when they pray? Please do on that thread. It will be a wonderful and sacred thing to do.
Um, I'm not the one who thinks posting a video of the Mormon temple ordinances is wrong. I would have no problem with someone posting a video of Jews praying at the Western Wall.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Equality wrote:I consider mocking other people's religions sacred. Therefore, you should not criticize any of my posts. Everything I say here is done in the fulfillment of my holy duties. As a result, you must respect everything I say and do.
I don't see any of your posts here. Don't be afraid to mock that which the jewish people consider sacred. Such mocking only allows you to live in the sacred.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote: Good for you. Have you mocked the jews in my thread for rocking back and forth? Praying to a wall? And wearing special clothes when they pray? Please do on that thread. It will be a wonderful and sacred thing to do.
Um, I'm not the one who thinks posting a video of the Mormon temple ordinances is wrong. I would have no problem with someone posting a video of Jews praying at the Western Wall.
Especially as the Jewish ritual is not sacred but not secret!
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Equality wrote:Um, I'm not the one who thinks posting a video of the Mormon temple ordinances is wrong. I would have no problem with someone posting a video of Jews praying at the Western Wall.
Would I have gone to the effort to film the endowment? Not a chance, but I'm surprised it has taken this long for someone to do it. I don't know the guy who posted the video or his motives. Merely publishing it isn't "mocking" it, though it is obviously offensive to believers. I've told people about the temple ceremonies when asked because I don't consider the covenants I made to have been made in good faith by the church.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Drifting wrote: Especially as the Jewish ritual is not sacred but not secret!
Equality's religion is to mock the sacred. That is what he said. I am giving him a chance to mock what orthodox jews consider to be sacred. I just want him to live his religion. He should thank me.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Bob Loblaw wrote: Would I have gone to the effort to film the endowment? Not a chance, but I'm surprised it has taken this long for someone to do it. I don't know the guy who posted the video or his motives. Merely publishing it isn't "mocking" it, though it is obviously offensive to believers.
And the person who posted the video knew this. The comments under the video are mocking and certainly the person who posted it is enjoying the mocking. And that is my case in point. He could disable the comments.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Bob Loblaw wrote: Would I have gone to the effort to film the endowment? Not a chance, but I'm surprised it has taken this long for someone to do it. I don't know the guy who posted the video or his motives. Merely publishing it isn't "mocking" it, though it is obviously offensive to believers.
And the person who posted the video knew this. The comments under the video are mocking and certainly the person who posted it is enjoying the mocking. And that is my case in point. He could disable the comments.
If you feel so strongly why don't you attend Church?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
why me wrote:And the person who posted the video knew this. The comments under the video are mocking and certainly the person who posted it is enjoying the mocking. And that is my case in point. He could disable the comments.
I thought the question was whether it was appropriate to post the video itself. I can talk about the endowment without mocking. Can you?
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Drifting wrote: Especially as the Jewish ritual is not sacred but not secret!
Equality's religion is to mock the sacred. That is what he said. I am giving him a chance to mock what orthodox jews consider to be sacred. I just want him to live his religion. He should thank me.
why me, your Sarcasm Meter is clearly malfunctioning.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
