West Ridge Academy Chooses BYU Lawyer for Child Abuse Case

[_Eric]

Not much commentary to add: Mormon Lawyer Defends Mormon Gulag

Except for the striking similarities to another Mormon lawyer some of us know, that makes a living representing cult and sex abusers and was also sent to a boarding school as a wayward Mormon.

Bob's history of defending the Mormon Church and sex abusers and cults and his sordid history may be something I write about later, I don't know yet.

But here are some readings if you haven't been paying attention to recent developments:

Senator Chris Buttars Deposition Testimony Transcript: Great Reading

More Censorship: Mormon Gulag Lawyers Seek Gag Order

West Ridge Academy / Mormon Gulag Settles Another Child Sex Abuse Lawsuit: 2012

[Guest]

Look Eric, other than call you a liar for some of your West Ridge posts (which only went to the curriculum and nothing else), and for that I've apologized because I have no clue one way the other, really, I've done nothing to come between you and your family. Attempt, perhaps, but nothing happened when emails bounced and I chose not to follow up. And I never did. I have never spoken with any of your siblings. I have never spoken with your mom except to say hello. Your dad is a client (he was sued in an intellectual property matter involving FARMS and a Baptist minister and I helped him prevail), whether you think so or not, as we speak once every six months.

I support your crusade, well, intellectually, against WR. Its lawyers have twice tried to get me to provide help. They have seen what you've said about me and figure I might be willing to to help. I refused, partly because I have zero to offer. Partly because if WR is guilty, it should pay. I have advised your step-dad to support your efforts.

As to West Ridge itself, I certainly have never represented it.

I don't represent child abusers. I represent schools, churches and educational companies who have been charged civilly with not protecting children from child abusers who work for them. I never, at the same time, represent the alleged perp. I have prevailed in every case (in one degree or another; usually it is paying the plaintiff a sum less than what my next motion will cost in court). My typical defense is that the institution lacked notice of the abuse. My work has led me to receive some criticism from at least one hate blog, but I can't control what they say about me.

Usually, I find that my clients are filled with good-hearted people who have difficulty coming to grips with the notion that a teacher or educator among them is a child abuser, and are willing to think the best of them.

So, hopefully you can focus your efforts on winning your action rather than against somebody who only hopes that justice will prevail for you.

[Edited once to make the statement stronger in support of Eric's actions.]

[_Analytics]

So, hopefully you can focus your efforts on winning your action rather than against somebody who only hopes that justice will prevail for you.

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[_Eric]

[Edited once to make the statement stronger in support of Eric's actions.]

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[_Yahoo Bot]

[Edited once to make the statement stronger in support of Eric's actions.]

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So what? I like to work on being precise. Good luck with your lawsuit but really, I have anything to do with West Ridge. I don't want any involvement.

[_sock puppet]

Except for the striking similarities to another Mormon lawyer some of us know, that makes a living representing cult and sex abusers and was also sent to a boarding school as a wayward Mormon.

Bob's history of defending the Mormon Church and sex abusers and cults and his sordid history may be something I write about later, I don't know yet.

Eric,

Yahoo Bot has asserted that he's not represented the accused perps of child abuse, but rather represents the institutions against whom some type of negligent supervision or respondeat superior liability is being asserted by the victims (or their parents).

Do you have information to the contrary, that Yahoo Bot has represented the acccused perps, not just the organizations in which the perps were functioning?

If not, then I think in light of YB's explanation, it would behoove you to correct this post to specify that he represents LDS Church and cults when one of their people are accused, rather than leave it to read that he represents sex abusers.

[_Eric]

If you check this thread every hour or so, Bob's posts change just a little bit. Even his second post. It's entertaining. It's like an exclusive glimpse inside the mind of a troll.

I refuse to be trolled by Bob, but I'll have lunch with him any time he'd like to make good on his offer and: 1. He pays 2. It's somewhere in the valley.

As far as representing child abusers as individuals versus the entities that employ them, I see no distinction regardless of Bob's denial.

For example, Bob claims to have represented my step-dad in a lawsuit. In actuality, Kurt Van Gordon sued the Church and FARMS, over whatever my step-dad said that the late FARMS Review published, so now he gets to claim (I guess) that he represents my step-dad or is still his lawyer or something.*

Likewise, when an institution is taken to court for the actions of their agents, the lawyers representing the institutions end up representing these agents. Even when these agents abuse children.



*I did ask my step-dad if Bob was his lawyer, he said "No, but...." anc had a slightly different version of the story that may or may not involve a hospital, but I'll keep those professional personal details off this thread since we're getting Mr. Hyde's posts today and I think the world is a better place without the Dr. Jekyll version of Bishop Bob.

[_Yahoo Bot]

I never "represented" your s-father. I have given him legal advice. Two different things. I don't see why that is so offensive. Divert your spectacles to somebody else; I am innocent of the things that happened to you.

[_Eric]

Your dad is a client

I never "represented" your s-father. I have given him legal advice. Two different things.

Whatever. Equivocate all you want I don't care, the nature of the two "relationships" is what matters. But out of respect I'll keep the "advice" part off the message board. We both know what I'm talking about.

I don't see why that is so offensive.

I'm not offended. I could probably care just a little less.

As Christ exhorted us to love our brother, I love you too Bob and even offered to let you take me out to lunch in the valley. Is that offer no longer valid or are you too bourgeois for SFV?

[_Eric]

Your dad is a client

I never "represented" your s-father. I have given him legal advice. Two different things.

Whatever. Equivocate all you want I don't care, the nature of the two "relationships" is what matters. But out of respect I'll keep the "advice" part off the message board. We both know what I'm talking about.

I don't see why that is so offensive.

I'm not offended. I could probably care just a little less.

As Christ exhorted us to love our brother, I love you too Bob and even offered to let you take me out to lunch in the valley. Is that offer no longer valid or are you too bourgeois for SFV?

ETA: don't be so defensive. This thread was simply about the how a BYU alumni Mormon lawyer is representing child abusers at the Church's boot camp, and how I know of another lawyer with a similar background. I'm sure it's coincidence. Just an interesting one.