Romney and Pat Robertson

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Romney and Pat Robertson

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Here's what Pat Robertson's CBN website says about Mormonism. It's under the section "How Do I Recognize a Cult"?

WHAT DO Mormons BELIEVE?

Mormons are some of the most exemplary human beings, especially in regard to their behavior patterns and their adherence to the fundamental values of our society. But their religious beliefs are, to put is simply, wrong. They believe that an angel named Moroni left some gold tablets in upstate New York and that these tablets were discovered by a man named Joseph Smith. From these tablets, Joseph Smith "translated" the Book of Mormon, which is the foundation upon which Mormonism is built. Mormons also consider two other books, Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price, to be divinely inspired.

Mormonism differs from biblical Christianity in several areas. Mormons do not believe, for example, that salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ. Mormons must work their way to heaven. (B. R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine (Salt Lake City:1958), p. 191.)

Mormonism teaches that God is not the only deity and that we all have the potential of becoming gods. (Ibid., p. 576.) (Remember that Satan's fall came about because he wanted to be like God.) God, according to Mormons, is not just Spirit but has "a body of flesh and bones as tangible as a man's." (Doctrine and Covenants, 130:22.) They teach, "As we are, he was. As he is, we shall become." (Joseph Smith, "The King Follett Discourse," p. 9.) There has been constant revision of Mormon doctrine over the years, as church leaders have changed their minds on a number of subjects including polygamy, which was once sanctioned by the church.

In summary, the Mormon church is a prosperous, growing organization that has produced many people of exemplary character. But when it comes to spiritual matters, the Mormons are far from the truth.


http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/cbntea ... _cult.aspx

How do LDS feel about Mitt cozying up with a fellow who obviously believes Mormonism is a cult?
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

Penn & Teller

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Re: Romney and Pat Robertson

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If it gets Mormon Mitt elected, TBMs will accept it. The TBMs will call Mitt being statesman like in being able to overlook that about Robertson and include him and his flock. It will be an example of Mormons doing political spin doctoring.
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Re: Romney and Pat Robertson

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Well, simply put. Not every president of the United States was a Fundamentalist Christian. And a few were borderline agnostics who believed Christianity was at least a benefit to society generally. Just because a man attends church doesn't mean he is saved, but it could mean he's searching.
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Re: Romney and Pat Robertson

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Pat Robertson told a man to move to Saudi Arabia so he could beat his wife legally today:

http://gawker.com/5941983/pat-robertson ... -of-course
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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Re: Romney and Pat Robertson

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Bond James Bond wrote:Pat Robertson told a man to move to Saudi Arabia so he could beat his wife legally today:

http://gawker.com/5941983/pat-robertson ... -of-course


Lesson for Mitt and LDS who are fine-and-dandy with Mitt and Pat:

When you get in bed with a turd, don't be surprised when you wake up the next morning smelling like......
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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beastie wrote:How do LDS feel about Mitt cozying up with a fellow who obviously believes Mormonism is a cult?

What makes you think Mitt is cozying up to Pat Robertson?
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

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Re: Romney and Pat Robertson

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Dr. Shades wrote:
beastie wrote:How do LDS feel about Mitt cozying up with a fellow who obviously believes Mormonism is a cult?

What makes you think Mitt is cozying up to Pat Robertson?


They campaigned together yesterday.

http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-ro ... evokes-god
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

MASH quotes
I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it.
I avoid church religiously.
This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
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Political necessity makes for strange bedfellows...
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Re: Romney and Pat Robertson

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OMG, you all have to listen to the actual program wherein Pat Robertson all but advocates wife beating.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 73142.html

Women problem???? What women problem?????
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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Re: Romney and Pat Robertson

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beastie wrote:OMG, you all have to listen to the actual program wherein Pat Robertson all but advocates wife beating.

I know the main focus here is the wife-beating "joke"/advice (which is inexcusable), but I'm wondering why people don't seem more concerned with the idiotic notion that this unfortunate woman is fully expected to be submissive and obedient to the guy as the "head of the house."

According to Pat's expert psychoanalysis, she obviously has behavioral problems, linked to a past where she was a disobedient child and threw tantrums and wanted to slap her father (and here I thought wisdom came with age).

I assume, based on the husband's words, that physical abuse is unlikely to actually happen, but the reality of his (and his preachers', which is the bigger problem) expectations of wifely obedience is the issue here.
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