quark wrote:I agree that it does sound wonderful. It is wonderful that God has a husband and that God has a wife. In other words, the LDS church must believe there are two parent Gods in the heavens. Did you hear that? TWO Gods! Amazing indeed! The problem is, they will never admit to this glorious truth.
Which makes it worse because it means that the Mother God is in an abusive relationship.
Not necessarily. It means that man's pride has dictated how the perception of God has been communicated.
Drifting wrote:Consig, it sounds to me as though part of the rationale behind inviting you to dinner was so that this conversation could take place. How open minded of not only the Bishop's wife, but the Bishop himself.
I think you are totally right about that, Drifting.
Especially so since after we retired to the living room (yes, all four of us, Why Me), she pulled out a piece of paper with questions on it that she said she had written down in order to ask me what I thought.
I asked her why it was she was asking me these questions.
She remembered my teaching in GD class a few years back about blacks receiving the priesthood in 1978 and how there was no revelation prior to that forbidding them the priesthood.
I think she saw a connection between that situation and women not having the priesthood, for some reason . . .
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
Ya think?
It is obvious that you have a good friendship with the bishop and his wife, and that there is a comfort level in being able to discuss these types of issues. I think it's great!
Tobin wrote: And correlated doctrine is usually pretty brain dead to start with. You can actually piece this together with very little effort. The scriptures make it clear that Jesus the only begotten of the Father. Also, the Mormon temple ordinances fill in the rest of the pieces. Those who are willing to follow God will become Celestial beings, who will form spirit children in the eternities after this life. Now, where do all these spirit children go? The answer is patently obvious: to worlds like ours. What that means is that WE are spirit children of those that have been saved and exalted before this world was formed. This is one eternal cycle and has happened before and will happen again and happens throughout the universe on worlds without number.
I agree with Tobin. When I was TBM, I believed the same thing about heavenly parents.
I felt like I was pretty special too for finding a hidden "pearl" that most members didn't understand.
Yes, it is surprising how few actually get it. Now, if I could convince these guys it is in their best interest to seek and speak with God and do what he says, we might actually be getting somewhere.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote: Yes, it is surprising how few actually get it. Now, if I could convince these guys it is in their best interest to seek and speak with God and do what he says, we might actually be getting somewhere.
The reason people get bored with this mantra is that most of them have spent more time then you seeking and asking God.
Tobin wrote:Yes, it is surprising how few actually get it. Now, if I could convince these guys it is in their best interest to seek and speak with God and do what he says, we might actually be getting somewhere.
You see, that's where we are all going wrong. We should copy what it was Tobin was doing when God visited him.
Tobin, what was it exactly that you were doing when God turned up in person?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
I've watched too many mystery shows. I would think of some trap of nefarious intent, if a connected Church member pulled out a list of questions to ask me. If not not too many mystery shows to fuel my paranoia, then maybe too much Dr. Scratch, small clipping services and pretend transcripts involving the merry MADsters.
