Can ex-mo's ever vote for a Mormon?
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I'm afraid my opinion of Mitt is slightly biased due to my recent disaffection from the church. I wish I could say otherwise.
That said, I really don't like some of Mitt's rhetoric. I started out with a tainted opinion and then he piled on a bunch of crap that I strongly disagree with.
Obama, on the other hand, resides in a soft place in my heart for a number of reasons. This creates bias as well.
That said, I really don't like some of Mitt's rhetoric. I started out with a tainted opinion and then he piled on a bunch of crap that I strongly disagree with.
Obama, on the other hand, resides in a soft place in my heart for a number of reasons. This creates bias as well.
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mocnarf wrote:I would like to ask can Ex-Mo's ever vote for a Mormon? Is discuss and distaste about Mormonism so great that you could not vote for any Mormon?
I do it every two years, for my congressman. There are many other local candidates for whom I vote every election who I assume are LDS, but they haven't said so directly, so I can't guarantee their religious affiliation (nor do I care). But I'm pretty confident they are.
I'm no fan of the church; I think it is an insidious fraud. But I have nothing against its members, most of whom are good, decent people.
I vote based on politics, not religion. I could never bring myself to vote for Romney, but it's not because he is LDS; it's because his policies and ideas are really bad, and because he is a despicable human with a total disregard for truth and honor, who will do or say anything to get elected. Witness his latest slanderous lies last night and this morning about the murders in Libya. "Disgraceful" indeed.
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Themis wrote:angsty wrote:I don't live in Nevada, but Reid has done a great job of demonstrating that it is possible to be both a respectable Democrat and a faithful Mormon.
You cannot be a good Mormon and a good republican. Bcspace will have to decide which one he will choose. He cannot be both.
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SteelHead wrote:Vote for a Mormon? Sure.
Vote for Mitt? Not me.
SteelHead wrote:I am voting for Ron Paul.
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SteelHead wrote:I am voting for Ron Paul.
Ron Paul, the guy published and passed out pamphlets and leaflets to his constituents and hopeful voters calling Martin Luther King Jr. Day "Hate Whitey Day;" praising the 1990s militia movement that culminated in tragedy at Oklahoma City; spread fears of syringe-bearing, preteen black women wandering the streets of New York infecting white women with HIV; and speculated that the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was secretly engineered by Israeli spies.
Great choice.

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Well it is either him or write in Ted Nugent.
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SteelHead wrote:Well it is either him or write in Ted Nugent.
Ted would be more effective than Ron.
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I guess I will have to go against the flow here. Obama has had his chance and I am unimpressed. Romney will get my vote but since Obama is the favorite son of Hawaii, he will win the state.
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You've got to be kidding. Obama's in the midst of absolutely wrecking the economy while we look like weak sisters overseas, and I'm supposed to care what church Mitt Romney goes to on Sunday? I'll definitely be voting for Romney.
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BartBurk wrote:You've got to be kidding. Obama's in the midst of absolutely wrecking the economy while we look like weak sisters overseas, and I'm supposed to care what church Mitt Romney goes to on Sunday? I'll definitely be voting for Romney.
How strong was your economy before Obama took office?
From 2008
It's official: Recession since Dec. '07
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The National Bureau of Economic Research said Monday that the U.S. has been in a recession since December 2007, making official what most Americans have already believed about the state of the economy .
The NBER is a private group of leading economists charged with dating the start and end of economic downturns. It typically takes a long time after the start of a recession to declare its start because of the need to look at final readings of various economic measures.
The NBER said that the deterioration in the labor market throughout 2008 was one key reason why it decided to state that the recession began last year.
Employers have trimmed payrolls by 1.2 million jobs in the first 10 months of this year. On Friday, economists are predicting the government will report a loss of another 325,000 jobs for November.
The NBER also looks at real personal income, industrial production as well as wholesale and retail sales. All those measures reached a peak between November 2007 and June 2008, the NBER said.
In addition, the NBER also considers the gross domestic product, which is the reading most typically associated with a recession in the general public.
Many people erroneously believe that a recession is defined by two consecutive quarters of economic activity declining. That has yet to take place during this recession.
This downturn longer than most
The NBER did not give any reasons or causes of the recession. But it is widely accepted that the housing downturn, which started in 2006, is a primary cause of the broader economic malaise.
The fall of housing prices from peak levels reached earlier this decade cut deeply into home building and home purchases. This also caused a sharp rise in mortgage foreclosures, which in turn resulted in losses of hundreds of billions of dollars among the nation's leading banks and a tightening of credit.
The current recession is one of the longest downturns since the Great Depression of the 1930's.
The last two recessions (1990-1991 and 2001) lasted eight months each, and only two of the 10 previous post-Depression downturns lasted as long as a full year, according to the NBER.
I don't think you can wreck something that was already wrecked, but what do I know. Give Romney a go and see if he delivers what he said he would deliver.
Let's remind everybody what that is:
1. Create 12 million new jobs.
2. Achieve US energy independance within seven years (by 2020).
3. Cut the national deficit.
4. Set up new trade agreements.
5. Get tough with Iran.
6. Repeal the healthcare bill.
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