$500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

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Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

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Stormy Waters wrote:我们为什么要张贴在不同的语言吗
Atsthay ustjay ethay ayway tiay siay, udeday.


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Quasimodo wrote:Unfortunately, Mr. Newman will be unavailable for all future requests.


Probably too busy showing the conversion power of a good salad dressing in the Spirit World. Who would have guessed that ectoplasm could substitute for oregano, green tea and Bayerisches Bier.
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moksha wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:Unfortunately, Mr. Newman will be unavailable for all future requests.


Probably too busy showing the conversion power of a good salad dressing in the Spirit World. Who would have guessed that ectoplasm could substitute for oregano, green tea and Bayerisches Bier.


I have a vision of Julius Caesar, Augustus, Pliny the elder (and younger) and other long dead Romans standing in line with bowls of steaming pasta, waiting for Newman to ladle pasta sauce on top.
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Nightlion, you seem to be a good candidate to take up the challenge. Read the criteria in this thread and then read the ebook at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008B8H4O8 and write your response on this thread. You must follow the criteria exactly to receive the $500. Your "Test Case for Christ's Return" might be a good start. At least you are thinking about it.
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The1Guy,

Step outside of yourself a moment and think about the difficulties others might find in taking your challenge seriously. Let's start with the obvious, the cost of time alone involved in taking your challenge. A typical Jack-in-the-box survey will net one a guranteed dollar-per-minute payoff. Most will still not find such a survey worth their time to take. Your book will take a few hours at best to read and then a detailed exposition on a difficult subject is required. And then, the already meager per-minute payoff for taking your challenge must be multiplied by the incredibly small possibility that you will find anyone's exposition on your favorite subject better than your own. Given gut-instincts about people's compensation demands for potential prize payoffs, no one will ever be tempted by a mere 500$ to enter your contest, and the original 100$, good God, do you think we're starving around here?

But even if we assume a contestant is interested in the topic such as to drastically curtail the perceived time cost or eliminate it, and if a third party were offering the challenge such that participants could feel assured the judging of exposition quality would be objective, no one in their right mind would give themself a chance at winning and here's why. The Book of Revelation is one of the most identifiable pieces of writing in the western world. Notwithstanding the intellectuals at BYU and LDS authorities who have given their opinions on its meaning, you've got the Christian world from Edersheim, to Sir Isaac Newton, to John Milton weighing in. While none of us know who you are, if it's assumed that all else have failed up til now, then the probability any on this forum in a one-off challenge will beat the man who has beaten the greatest religious minds of the Christian world, with only a few minutes or hours invested studying chapter 13 and then quickly writing up an interpretation; well, this probability is next to nothing.

The person who does eventually take up your challenge in full earnest will likely have issues, and you will not be satisfied by your victory as his/her try will not represent no norm you're hoping for a response from.
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Gadianton wrote:The1Guy,

Step outside of yourself a moment and think about the difficulties others might find in taking your challenge seriously. Let's start with the obvious, the cost of time alone involved in taking your challenge. A typical Jack-in-the-box survey will net one a guranteed dollar-per-minute payoff. Most will still not find such a survey worth their time to take. Your book will take a few hours at best to read and then a detailed exposition on a difficult subject is required. And then, the already meager per-minute payoff for taking your challenge must be multiplied by the incredibly small possibility that you will find anyone's exposition on your favorite subject better than your own. Given gut-instincts about people's compensation demands for potential prize payoffs, no one will ever be tempted by a mere 500$ to enter your contest, and the original 100$, good God, do you think we're starving around here?

But even if we assume a contestant is interested in the topic such as to drastically curtail the perceived time cost or eliminate it, and if a third party were offering the challenge such that participants could feel assured the judging of exposition quality would be objective, no one in their right mind would give themself a chance at winning and here's why. The Book of Revelation is one of the most identifiable pieces of writing in the western world. Notwithstanding the intellectuals at BYU and LDS authorities who have given their opinions on its meaning, you've got the Christian world from Edersheim, to Sir Isaac Newton, to John Milton weighing in. While none of us know who you are, if it's assumed that all else have failed up til now, then the probability any on this forum in a one-off challenge will beat the man who has beaten the greatest religious minds of the Christian world, with only a few minutes or hours invested studying chapter 13 and then quickly writing up an interpretation; well, this probability is next to nothing.

The person who does eventually take up your challenge in full earnest will likely have issues, and you will not be satisfied by your victory as his/her try will not represent no norm you're hoping for a response from.


Thank you for your comment. I can see you want your name taken off the prospects list. But I do hope you will take the time to read the book.
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Gadianton wrote:
The person who does eventually take up your challenge in full earnest will likely have issues, and you will not be satisfied by your victory as his/her try will not represent no norm you're hoping for a response from.

I am nothing if not a man with issues, Gadianton.
I just don't have a Kindle. If 1 Guy could PM me a PDF link or e-mail me an attachment or better still drop off a copy I could pay him for at my office in East Millcreek. (See sig) Certainly it is my meat and drink to be thinking on such things all the day long. Ya know, that is the secret to having the Spirit,,,,,,,,always remember him. Just sayin'
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Hi Nightlion,

Do you think the chances of writing an exposition on Rev. 13 that The1Guy deems a better interpretation than his own interpretation is greater or less than the chances of The1Guy interpreting a picture of Mt. Olympus more correctly than you can?
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Gadianton wrote:Hi Nightlion,

Do you think the chances of writing an exposition on Rev. 13 that The1Guy deems a better interpretation than his own interpretation is greater or less than the chances of The1Guy interpreting a picture of Mt. Olympus more correctly than you can?


I don't know why we need an entire book to get his points on one chapter of Revelation.(?)Forget the five hundred dollar lure.
He has our attention. Just make a case and let the chips fall where they may. I will give it shot. Save himself some dough and just cough up what the point is. We are only a few, and the proud. Be that as it may it will not kill his future book sales by giving it away on this lone and dreary forum.
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The1Guy wrote:Read the criteria in this thread and then read the ebook at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008B8H4O8 and write your response on this thread.
Rev. 13:18: This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666 [some early Greek texts read "616"].

The author here indicates that there is a calculation whereby 666 (or 616) reveals the identity of a man. What calculation does your novel use? How does this calculation identify a man (the beast)?

It's not too late to admit that your challenge has already been met, and to donate the $500 to a charity of your choice. :razz:
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