Are we sure we know who Mary is?

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Re: Are we sure we know who Mary is?

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MCB wrote:
zeezrom wrote:I suppose we could fix the Joseph problem by making him heavenly father in the flesh. Sort of a disguise?

That was the tendency at the time.

Heavenly Mother was based on a misunderstanding of Catholicism. That is why Heavenly Mother became Eve.


But that would mean Adam slept with his mom....eeeeoooowwww...!
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Drifting wrote:But that would mean Adam slept with his mom....eeeeoooowwww...!
In the new BY book, as he consolidated his power after the death of Joseph Smith, he temple adopted many people into his family. Such adoptions, done to reduce the Smith family's claims, amounted to institutionalized incest. He apparently saw nothing wrong with this.
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MCB wrote:In the new BY book, as he consolidated his power after the death of Joseph Smith, he temple adopted many people into his family. Such adoptions, done to reduce the Smith family's claims, amounted to institutionalized incest. He apparently saw nothing wrong with this.

This reminds me of King Tut's family.
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zeezrom wrote:This reminds me of King Tut's family.
What else can you expect with a religion that started with "reformed Egyptian"?
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MCB wrote:
zeezrom wrote:This reminds me of King Tut's family.
What else can you expect with a religion that started with "reformed Egyptian"?


Is this like Egyptian that saw the error of its ways and so turned over a new leaf?
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Drifting wrote:Is this like Egyptian that saw the error of its ways and so turned over a new leaf?
Every year is a new leaf. And the Mormon gods repent frequently.
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Heavenly Mother can be whoever Mormons want her to be since they know nothing about her.
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BartBurk wrote:Heavenly Mother can be whoever Mormons want her to be since they know nothing about her.

They know as much about Heavenly Father.
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Re: Are we sure we know who Mary is?

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Chap wrote:
madeleine wrote::arrow: Mary is not a goddess.


But you can address prayers to her, right? (latria, dulia, hyperdulia and so on, but basically you can pray ...).


Indeed.
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Re: Are we sure we know who Mary is?

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madeleine wrote:
Chap wrote:
But you can address prayers to her, right? (latria, dulia, hyperdulia and so on, but basically you can pray ...).


Indeed.

Madeleine,

I really shouldn't address these kinds of questions to a Catholic out of respect. I am trying to address the issue of lack of imagination within Mormon theology.
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