Mormon sexuality part two

[_why me]

http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org ... fely-duty/

I think that there is much wisdom in this blog. And it was in response to the sex and bishop blog.

[_3sheets2thewind]

Why in the is anyone going to a Bishop for sexual issues counseling?

My Bishop is an accountant, and as best I can tell he is not trained in issues of sexuality

[_Bob Loblaw]

Boyd K. Packer has repeatedly counseled that members should not go to their bishops for counseling.

[_just me]

Boyd K. Packer has repeatedly counseled that members should not go to their bishops for counseling.

[_Bob Loblaw]

I"m glad someone else thought my little play on words was funny. This is what President P had to say about bishops and counseling in the January 2010 Ensign:

We seem to be developing an epidemic of “counselitis” which drains spiritual strength from the Church much like the common cold drains more strength out of humanity than any other disease. …

Speaking figuratively, many a bishop keeps on the corner of his desk a large stack of order forms for emotional relief.

When someone comes with a problem, the bishop, unfortunately, without a question, passes them out, without stopping to think what he is doing to his people. …If my boy needs counseling, bishop, it should be my responsibility first, and yours second.

If my boy needs recreation, bishop, I should provide it first, and you second.

If my boy needs correction, that should be my responsibility first, and yours second.

If I am failing as a father, help me first, and my children second.

Do not be too quick to take over from me the job of raising my children.

Do not be too quick to counsel them and solve all of the problems. Get me involved. It is my ministry.

We live in a day when the adversary stresses on every hand the philosophy of instant gratification. We seem to demand instant everything, including instant solutions to our problems. …

It was meant to be that life would be a challenge. To suffer some anxiety, some depression, some disappointment, even some failure is normal.

Teach our members that if they have a good, miserable day once in a while, or several in a row, to stand steady and face them. Things will straighten out.

There is great purpose in our struggle in life.

Spiritual independence and self-reliance is a sustaining power in the Church. If we rob the members of that, how can they get revelation for themselves? How will they know there is a prophet of God? How can they get answers to prayers? How can they know for sure for themselves?

In other words, don't bother the bishop, and absolutely never contact the GAs, who are much too busy to care about individual members.

[_just me]

We live in a day when the adversary stresses on every hand the philosophy of instant gratification. We seem to demand instant everything, including instant solutions to our problems. …

It was meant to be that life would be a challenge. To suffer some anxiety, some depression, some disappointment, even some failure is normal.

Wow. Let people suffer nigh unto death before you provide the solution you have been sitting on the whole time??? Asshole.

We wouldn't want him counseling peeps anyway!

[Guest]

From the site -- anecdotal comments in the article that LDS women find that sex is not necessary to a "happy marriage":

However, in this day and age, I am still surprised by the amount of LDS women who come through my office saying things like: “If I don’t want to have sex in my marriage, my husband should be OK with that. He needs to control his passions.” “I have no need for sex – my husband just has to get over it.” “Sex is not necessary for marital happiness.”

Ok - For you LDS men that get these responses - Take away the money for shopping trips, the Cadillac Escalade/BMW/Suburban...or whatever the spoiled brat of a sexless wife demands from you. Take away the vacations, the fancy dinners, jewelry, etc etc.

Hey if sex isn't necessary for a "happy marriage", then neither is the materialistic consumerism that a man labors and stresses to provide for his thankless wife.

If my wife gave me those lines, she would be eating Top Ramon 'till she begged me for a divorce.

Men - Time to beat some sense into your wives.

[_Bob Loblaw]

Wow. Let people suffer nigh unto death before you provide the solution you have been sitting on the whole time??? Asshole.

We wouldn't want him counseling peeps anyway!

I was always taught that service to others was a great blessing in our lives, but Packer tells us that such service, in the form of compassionate counseling, "drains spiritual strength from the Church."

[_just me]

From the site -- anecdotal comments in the article that LDS women find that sex is not necessary to a "happy marriage":

However, in this day and age, I am still surprised by the amount of LDS women who come through my office saying things like: “If I don’t want to have sex in my marriage, my husband should be OK with that. He needs to control his passions.” “I have no need for sex – my husband just has to get over it.” “Sex is not necessary for marital happiness.”

Ok - For you LDS men that get these responses - Take away the money for shopping trips, the Cadillac Escalade/BMW/Suburban...or whatever the spoiled brat of a sexless wife demands from you. Take away the vacations, the fancy dinners, jewelry, etc etc.

Hey if sex isn't necessary for a "happy marriage", then neither is the materialistic consumerism that a man labors and stresses to provide for his thankless wife.

If my wife gave me those lines, she would be eating Top Ramon 'till she begged me for a divorce.

Men - Time to beat some sense into your wives.

yes. Make sure she understands that sex is currency. It'll make her hot between the legs.

[_Cicero]

Make sure she understands that sex is currency. It'll make her hot between the legs.

Or it'll make her want to kick someone between the legs.