Pahoran wrote:Did someone just try to tell me you're a bishop??!!
Now there's a Tui Billboard moment!
Regards, Pahoran
I would expect a bishop to call you out on your despicable behavior, so I appreciate Everybody Wang Chung for showing me that there are good bishops out there. Too bad none of the cheerleading squad at MDD will do it.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
[*] I asked a mutual friend one more time if s/he would get in touch with you and ask you to stop sharing my private correspondence. This person was worried that s/he would get in trouble for doing this, so s/he checked with Nemesis first. Nemesis forbade him/her from contacting you on my behalf under threat of banning---yes, that's right, Nemesis was going to read the PMs of anyone who contacted you on my behalf and ban them. He also used the occasion to IP-block my account to try and stop me from even viewing the forum.
Wow. Nemesis has gone round the bend.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
beastie wrote:Wow. Nemesis has gone round the bend.
You're just noticing this? The partisan nature of MDD and other mopologetic groups would be amusing if it weren't so vicious and evil. If I had to resort to doing evil to protect my belief system, I'd rethink my belief system.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Bob Loblaw wrote:I would expect a bishop to call you out on your despicable behavior, so I appreciate Everybody Wang Chung for showing me that there are good bishops out there. Too bad none of the cheerleading squad at MDD will do it.
Since your perception of "despicable behavior" is entirely partisan ("die in a fire" is all good, "your vendetta" is despicable) I find your judgement to be entirely irrelevant.
But Mister Wang Chung is evidently unaware of the fact that ordinary digital interactions have absolutely nothing to do with any priesthood office, while actual Latter-day Saints do not mock such things.
He's no more a bishop than my mother's tortoiseshell cat.
Pahoran wrote:Since your perception of "despicable behavior" is entirely partisan ("die in a fire" is all good, "your vendetta" is despicable) I find your judgement to be entirely irrelevant.
But Mister Wang Chung is evidently unaware of the fact that ordinary digital interactions have absolutely nothing to do with any priesthood office, while actual Latter-day Saints do not mock such things.
He's no more a bishop than my mother's tortoiseshell cat.
Regards, Pahoran
My dear brethren, I wish to speak very plainly this evening about a matter that I feel deeply concerned over. What a great pleasure and a worrisome challenge it is to speak to you. What a tremendous brotherhood we are as those who hold this precious and wonderful priesthood. It comes from God, our Eternal Father, who in this glorious dispensation has, with His Beloved Son, spoken again from the heavens. They have sent Their authorized servants to bestow this divine authority upon men.
Personal worthiness becomes the standard of eligibility to receive and exercise this sacred power. It is of this that I wish to speak tonight.
I begin by reading to you from the Doctrine and Covenants, section 121:
“The rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and … the powers of heaven cannot be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness.
“That they may be conferred upon us, it is true; but when we undertake to cover our sins, or to gratify our pride, our vain ambition, or to exercise control or dominion or compulsion upon the souls of the children of men, in any degree of unrighteousness, behold, the heavens withdraw themselves; the Spirit of the Lord is grieved; and when it is withdrawn, Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man” (D&C 121:36–37).
That is the unequivocal word of the Lord concerning His divine authority. What a tremendous obligation this places upon each of us. We who hold the priesthood of God must stand above the ways of the world. We must discipline ourselves. We cannot be self-righteous, but we can and must be decent, honorable men.
Our behavior in public must be above reproach. Our behavior in private is even more important. It must clear the standard set by the Lord. We cannot indulge in sin, let alone try to cover our sins. We cannot gratify our pride. We cannot partake of the vanity of unrighteous ambition. We cannot exercise control, or dominion, or compulsion upon our wives or children, or any others in any degree of unrighteousness.
If we do any of these things, the powers of heaven are withdrawn. The Spirit of the Lord is grieved. The very virtue of our priesthood is nullified. Its authority is lost.
The manner of our living, the words we speak, and our everyday behavior have a bearing upon our effectiveness as men and boys holding the priesthood.
Pahoran wrote:Since your perception of "despicable behavior" is entirely partisan ("die in a fire" is all good, "your vendetta" is despicable) I find your judgement to be entirely irrelevant.
Who said anything about "die in a fire"? Does my not having seen that mean I condone it as appropriate? Of course I don't need your approval for anything. You and I both know what is right and wrong, but one of us finds it entirely acceptable to employ that which is wrong in defending the "truth." Your twisted moral depravity is not my fault.
But Mister Wang Chung is evidently unaware of the fact that ordinary digital interactions have absolutely nothing to do with any priesthood office, while actual Latter-day Saints do not mock such things.
You mocked him for being a bishop. You must not be an "actual Latter-day Saint." (But then we already knew that.) And I sure hope your priesthood office is not conducted the way you conduct yourself here and elsewhere online. You should be ashamed of yourself--but then you appear to be incapable of shame.
He's no more a bishop than my mother's tortoiseshell cat.
Regards, Pahoran
CFR. Where is your support for this ridiculous assertion other than your basic impulse to hate and mock?
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Pahoran wrote:...the fact that ordinary digital interactions have absolutely nothing to do with any priesthood office...
Do you mean that you believe God is officially okay with your online behaviour not meeting the standards expected of a Priesthood holder? Or that you are not a Priesthood holder all of the time - for instance, when online you are 'on a break' so to speak?
If you are - CFR
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Bob Loblaw wrote:Sure, stupid people like why me will lap your s*** up, but everyone else comes away from these exchanges wondering how low you will stoop next time.
No kidding, Its hard for me to imagine that he is really so dense that he thinks anyone (except the arse-sniffer why me) buys anything that he is typing...It seems a bit desperate, like he is trying, at this point, just to convince himself. Then again, the guy does come across as a bitter, insecure, douche. That said, I do enjoy the juxtaposition of jacks calm, fact-laden and well thought out posts with the pubescent-teen-like hostility that oozes forth from his keyboard.
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
schreech wrote:No kidding, Its hard for me to imagine that he is really so dense that he thinks anyone (except the arse-sniffer why me) buys anything that he is typing...It seems a bit desperate, like he is trying, at this point, just to convince himself. Then again, the guy does come across as a bitter, insecure, douche. That said, I do enjoy the juxtaposition of jacks calm, fact-laden and well thought out posts with the pubescent-teen-like hostility that oozes forth from his keyboard.
It seems that Pahoran does not realize that the law of sacrifice does not include sacrificing your integrity, kindness, and humanity.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Pahoran and I have talked again in PM and I think we've come to an understanding, so I've removed any mention of his name or alias from my blog post and deleted the OPs of this thread.
"It seems to me that these women were the head (κεφάλαιον) of the church which was at Philippi." ~ John Chrysostom, Homilies on Philippians 13