What Mitt Romney doesn't know..

[_beastie]

BO doesn't comprehend what it is to be a disciple of Christ.
BO believes being cool and accepted is most important.
BO doesn't understand that not everyone wants to live in urban areas.
BO doesn't understand that the government doesn't own anything.
BO doesn't understand that the government doesn't make money.
BO never ran a business.
BO doesn't understand that climate change will not be improved upon by governmental intervention.
BO doesn't consider that the government is not superior to God nor the people it serves.
BO doesn't comprehend the ideal truth of marriage.
BO doesn't understand what it is to be conservative.
BO doesn't appreciate Israel.
BO doesn't take threats to the security of our embassays seriously.
BO doesn't remember that the 9/11 anniversary might bring an attack.
BO doesn't believe American values are superior to those of Moslem extremists.
BO doesn't consider that his father and sister erred in their religious affiliation.
BO doesn't care if oil prices go through the roof.
BO believes adding more government will save money.
BO believes printing money without backing can erase debt.
BO doesn't hold people accountable for their mistakes but feels the government should redistribute earned wealth to anyone who needs money...
BO doesn't admit that some handicapes can be avoided.
BO doesn't realize that all good jobs do not require college certificates if factories are encouraged to prosper.
BO doesn't realize that the middle class are just average citizens who believe in good work ethics.
BO thinks that by giving money to the poor their goals will improve.
BO imagines that by handing money to educators, students will become more educated.
BO doesn't know how to give a speech without over used empty old cliches.

Aside from the laughable aspects of many elements of your list, you entirely miss the point. The point isn't policy. The point isn't liberal versus conservative.

The point is attitude towards people.

So you think you have a better way to help eradicate poverty? Fine, present it. But if you actually think that poor people are just lazy, looking for hand-outs, you'd better keep that to yourself while running for president. If you think that 47% of the American population are lazy victims, you'd better keep that to yourself while running for president. Because otherwise, you know, you're going to look like an arrogant, dismissive jerk who has lived his life benefiting from privileges he can't even recognize.

The fact is that the economy has resulted in many people receiving help from government. And that includes many people who have worked hard all their lives and want to continue doing so. That includes people who have taken responsibility for their lives and care for their lives. But they're in a position where they need help. I know there are some people like that on this board, as a matter of fact, because they've openly referred to that in the past, although I doubt they will do so now. And Mitt Romney is including them in his dismissive statement. In fact, nearly every person in the US right now probably knows someone who has needed government assistance during this economic crisis. I think many of them, conservative or not, will be offended by Romney's attitude.

At any rate, they should be.

[_LittleNipper]

BO doesn't comprehend what it is to be a disciple of Christ.
BO believes being cool and accepted is most important.
BO doesn't understand that not everyone wants to live in urban areas.
BO doesn't understand that the government doesn't own anything.
BO doesn't understand that the government doesn't make money.
BO never ran a business.
BO doesn't understand that climate change will not be improved upon by governmental intervention.
BO doesn't consider that the government is not superior to God nor the people it serves.
BO doesn't comprehend the ideal truth of marriage.
BO doesn't understand what it is to be conservative.
BO doesn't appreciate Israel.
BO doesn't take threats to the security of our embassays seriously.
BO doesn't remember that the 9/11 anniversary might bring an attack.
BO doesn't believe American values are superior to those of Moslem extremists.
BO doesn't consider that his father and sister erred in their religious affiliation.
BO doesn't care if oil prices go through the roof.
BO believes adding more government will save money.
BO believes printing money without backing can erase debt.
BO doesn't hold people accountable for their mistakes but feels the government should redistribute earned wealth to anyone who needs money...
BO doesn't admit that some handicapes can be avoided.
BO doesn't realize that all good jobs do not require college certificates if factories are encouraged to prosper.
BO doesn't realize that the middle class are just average citizens who believe in good work ethics.
BO thinks that by giving money to the poor their goals will improve.
BO imagines that by handing money to educators, students will become more educated.
BO doesn't know how to give a speech without over used empty old cliches.

Aside from the laughable aspects of many elements of your list, you entirely miss the point. The point isn't policy. The point isn't liberal versus conservative.

The point is attitude towards people.

So you think you have a better way to help eradicate poverty? Fine, present it. But if you actually think that poor people are just lazy, looking for hand-outs, you'd better keep that to yourself while running for president. If you think that 47% of the American population are lazy victims, you'd better keep that to yourself while running for president. Because otherwise, you know, you're going to look like an arrogant, dismissive jerk who has lived his life benefiting from privileges he can't even recognize.

The fact is that the economy has resulted in many people receiving help from government. And that includes many people who have worked hard all their lives and want to continue doing so. That includes people who have taken responsibility for their lives and care for their lives. But they're in a position where they need help. I know there are some people like that on this board, as a matter of fact, because they've openly referred to that in the past, although I doubt they will do so now. And Mitt Romney is including them in his dismissive statement. In fact, nearly every person in the US right now probably knows someone who has needed government assistance during this economic crisis. I think many of them, conservative or not, will be offended by Romney's attitude.

At any rate, they should be.

The only way to lower poverty is not to hand out free money, but make people work for it. I was unemployed for a time and I hated it. However, I also paid into the unemployment fund for about 38 years prior. But I also didn't wish to remain a drain on society. I do not count retired people on Social Security. They in fact contributed to their fund. Some people have babies out of wedlock (one after the other). Some of these people are getting tattooed, drinking, and smoking --- where is that money coming from? I'd say prove Romney wrong and vote for him. The economy cannot do worse and I feel that jobs will happen as the government gets off everyone's back. Why would a company manufacture in Communist/Socialist China, if their regulations were as stringent as ours. It isn't just about the worker's pay. It involves extreme polution controls, mirades of governmental forms, higher and higher taxes and cheaper fuel access. I actually believe we are in a Depression and that unemployment and under employment is actually around 20% or even more. Some people maybe offended, but perhaps that is exactly what they need to get out the rut the socialist government presently has assigned them to...

[_Brackite]

Marco Rubio 2016!!!

[_beastie]

The only way to lower poverty is not to hand out free money, but make people work for it. I was unemployed for a time and I hated it. However, I also paid into the unemployment fund for about 38 years prior. But I also didn't wish to remain a drain on society. I do not count retired people on Social Security. They in fact contributed to their fund. Some people have babies out of wedlock (one after the other). Some of these people are getting tattooed, drinking, and smoking --- where is that money coming from? I'd say prove Romney wrong and vote for him. The economy cannot do worse and I feel that jobs will happen as the government gets off everyone's back. Why would a company manufacture in Communist/Socialist China, if their regulations were as stringent as ours. It isn't just about the worker's pay. It involves extreme polution controls, mirades of governmental forms, higher and higher taxes and cheaper fuel access. I actually believe we are in a Depression and that unemployment and under employment is actually around 20% or even more. Some people maybe offended, but perhaps that is exactly what they need to get out the rut the socialist government presently has assigned them to...

People drawing social security today receive far more than they put into it. My generation will not, but the current recipients still do, as have the previous recipients.

In addition, elderly people who are in need of nursing home care often are put into the medicaid system for more assistance.

The current welfare system DOES work to put people back in the workforce.

I'm sure that some people who receive government aid ought not to. But Romney - and you - act as if that fairly categorizes everyone who receives government aid. It doesn't.

If our country really cared about ending poverty, it would enact more aggressive intervention programs to stop the cycle of poverty, which is often closely entwined with illiteracy. We mainly do lip service and keep the things the way they are. In the meantime, generations are trapped in this cycle and the truly entitled - read Mitt Romney - look down their noses at people whose lives contain struggles Mitt knows NOTHING about.

I guess you and Mitt would be happy if our workforce were treated like those in China.

[_beastie]

Oh, and by the way, some of the tax incentives built into the system that allow the WORKING POOR to not pay any federal income taxes were designed to - you guessed it - encourage those same people to WORK. Work has to pay more than welfare.

He acts like the people who don't pay fed income taxes are worthless, lazy people. The truth is that they are the WORKING POOR.

[_beastie]

Here are some of those pesky things that Romney likes to ignore: facts.

Many of the people criticized by Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney for not paying income taxes actually do pay taxes -- specifically the federal payroll tax, the independent Tax Policy Center said.

And nearly half of those who do not pay federal income taxes are elderly, the group found in an analysis last year.

About 46.4% of households paid no income tax in 2011, according to a breakdown by the center, a joint venture of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution. But about 61% of those households paid federal payroll taxes.

The payroll tax helps fund Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance and some other programs. Employers usually pay half of the 15.3% tax, with employees paying the other half. Those who are self-employed must pay the whole amount.

A temporary payroll tax cut, which began in 2011 and extends through this year, reduced the employee portion of the tax by 2 percentage points.

There were only 18.1% of households that didn't pay the payroll tax in 2011, the Tax Policy Center said. And that figure didn't include sales taxes and other state and local taxes.

The center's 46.4% figure for households that paid no federal income tax is roughly the same as the percentage of people Romney dismissed at a private fundraiser this year, according to comments he made on a secretly taped video that was released Monday by the Mother Jones news organization.

"There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said in the video of supporters of his Democratic opponent, President Obama.

"All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing, to you name it," Romney said.

"That — that's an entitlement," he continued. "And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what .…These are people who pay no income tax."

The Tax Policy Center last year analyzed who those people were.

About 44% are elderly and had their income taxes reduced to zero by deductions and credits designed to help senior citizens.

About 30% of those who paid no income taxes were able to do so because of tax credits designed to help families with children and the working poor, including the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit.

Of people who paid neither income taxes nor payroll taxes, more than half are elderly and only about 5% are younger people with annual incomes of more than $20,000.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-m ... 4357.story

[_beastie]

Turns out that the states with the highest percentage of people who don't pay federal income taxes are mainly red states. Romney is insulting his base.

Eight of the 10 states with the highest percentage of filers who didn't pay federal income taxes are red states that voted for John McCain in 2008: Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, South Carolina, Arkansas, and Idaho. Only New Mexico and Florida voted for Obama. Conversely, of the 10 states with the lowest percentage of filers who didn't pay federal income taxes, seven voted for Obama. Only Alaska, Wyoming and North Dakota voted for McCain

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/18/opinion/g ... index.html

[_Brackite]

Romney Has Support Among Lowest Income Voters:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157508/romne ... oters.aspx

[_LittleNipper]

The only way to lower poverty is not to hand out free money, but make people work for it. I was unemployed for a time and I hated it. However, I also paid into the unemployment fund for about 38 years prior. But I also didn't wish to remain a drain on society. I do not count retired people on Social Security. They in fact contributed to their fund. Some people have babies out of wedlock (one after the other). Some of these people are getting tattooed, drinking, and smoking --- where is that money coming from? I'd say prove Romney wrong and vote for him. The economy cannot do worse and I feel that jobs will happen as the government gets off everyone's back. Why would a company manufacture in Communist/Socialist China, if their regulations were as stringent as ours. It isn't just about the worker's pay. It involves extreme polution controls, mirades of governmental forms, higher and higher taxes and cheaper fuel access. I actually believe we are in a Depression and that unemployment and under employment is actually around 20% or even more. Some people maybe offended, but perhaps that is exactly what they need to get out the rut the socialist government presently has assigned them to...

People drawing social security today receive far more than they put into it. My generation will not, but the current recipients still do, as have the previous recipients.

In addition, elderly people who are in need of nursing home care often are put into the medicaid system for more assistance.

The current welfare system DOES work to put people back in the workforce.

I'm sure that some people who receive government aid ought not to. But Romney - and you - act as if that fairly categorizes everyone who receives government aid. It doesn't.

If our country really cared about ending poverty, it would enact more aggressive intervention programs to stop the cycle of poverty, which is often closely entwined with illiteracy. We mainly do lip service and keep the things the way they are. In the meantime, generations are trapped in this cycle and the truly entitled - read Mitt Romney - look down their noses at people whose lives contain struggles Mitt knows NOTHING about.

I guess you and Mitt would be happy if our workforce were treated like those in China.

What you say about Social Security is pretty much true of 401K plans. The idea is to live off the interest generated by one's contributions. The problem is that the government has been stealing from Social Security to pay for other things.
How do we know how Chinese are treated by employers? Intervention should include vouchers for privately run schools and an end to Federal run education. A religious promotion of sexual abstinence must be encouraged and supported by the State beginning at an early age. Bible reading will go far to end illiteracy, as it once did in the early years of public education. The King James Version of the Bible was written at a 5th grade level. I once regularly read portions in public school, but then education wasn't about the separation of Church and State control, it was about learning to reason for one's self.

[_beastie]

What you say about Social Security is pretty much true of 401K plans. The idea is to live off the interest generated by one's contributions. The problem is that the government has been stealing from Social Security to pay for other things.
How do we know how Chinese are treated by employers? Intervention should include vouchers for privately run schools and an end to Federal run education. A religious promotion of sexual abstinence must be encouraged and supported by the State beginning at an early age. Bible reading will go far to end illiteracy, as it once did in the early years of public education. The King James Version of the Bible was written at a 5th grade level. I once regularly read portions in public school, but then education wasn't about the separation of Church and State control, it was about learning to reason for one's self.

401K plans that perform well, absent a crash. But that doesn't change my point.

It sounds to me like you advocate merging religion and state. I really have no interest in such a discussion. I do have my limits. But I understand why you want to vote for Romney. He's your type of fellow, no doubt.