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Typical Leftist...

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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli ... _democrats

A professor in Florida is under fire today after forcing her students to sign a pledge to vote for Barack Obama and Democrats. Oliver Darcy over at Campus Reform has more:

A college professor has been placed on leave after she allegedly forced her class to sign a pledge to vote for President Obama in the upcoming elections.

Early last week Professor Sharon Sweet at Brevard Community College (BCC) allegedly told students to sign a pledge that reads: “I pledge to vote for President Obama and Democrats up and down the ticket.”

University administrators said they learned about the incident late Thursday afternoon and launched an investigation, after they received a phone call from a concerned parent.

“Based on the allegations, Associate Professor Sweet has requested, and been granted, a leave of absence without pay effective immediately,” reads a statement put out by John Glisch, Associate Vice President for Communications at BCC.

“The college will continue its investigation into the matter, which will include interviews with all students in her class,” continues the statement.

Sweet’s actions may have also violated Florida’s election laws.

The pledge was printed by Sweet from GottaVote.org, a voter registration website paid for by the Obama campaign. I'm pretty certain Ms. Sweet failed to tell her students that 50 percent of recent college graduates can't find a job and that they'll most likely have to move back in with their parents after school as a result. Young America's Foundation points out the youth misery index has hit a record high of 90.6.

Young America’s Foundation has released the Youth Misery Index (YMI), which has reached a record high (90.6) and has grown more than 25 percent in four years—17 percent since the Obama administration took office.

To calculate the index, Young America’s Foundation adds together youth unemployment, average graduating student debt (in thousands), and national debt per capita (in thousands). At no point in recent history has life been harder for America’s young people.

The Youth Misery Index represents a three-pronged attack on young Americans’ financial security—educational debt from their past, unemployment in the present, and a future plagued by the burden of massive government debt.

Youth unemployment is at 17.4 percent—one of the highest levels since World War II. Average graduating student debt has reached a record-breaking $26,300. National debt per capita is $46,900—the highest ever. Add it up, and the Youth Misery Index comes out to 90.6 (17.4 + 26.3 + 46.9 = 90.6). What does this number mean? Like Jimmy Carter’s Misery Index, the YMI uncovers some real threats to our nation’s prosperity.

The economy doesn't run on hope and change, it runs on strong businesses and economic growth, both lacking under Obama.
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Are you suggesting that the typical "leftist" college teacher forces his or her students to pledges to vote for the left?
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Droopy wrote:http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/09/18/indoctrinate_u_professor_forces_students_to_pledge_they_vote_for_obama_and_democrats

A professor in Florida is under fire today after forcing her students to sign a pledge to vote for Barack Obama and Democrats. Oliver Darcy over at Campus Reform has more:

A college professor has been placed on leave after she allegedly forced her class to sign a pledge to vote for President Obama in the upcoming elections.
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It's interesting trying to trace the genesis of this story.

First, it is not reported on any of the major news sites that I have seen. If you google:

I pledge to vote for President Obama and Democrats up and down the ticket.

You come up with is a list of blogs reporting, with virtually identical verbiage, the same story, but most without attribution of the original source. One source attributes watchdogwire.com as the original source.

Checking that site, here's the original lead:

Watchdogwire wrote:A citizen, whose nephew attends Brevard Community College, reports that he brought home the below bookmark pledging to vote for President Obama. The bookmark and pledge was handed out during a mathematics class taught by Assistant Professor Sharon Sweet. This occurred “while the student was in class at the request of his College Algebra teacher, Sharon Sweet, from Brevard Community College in [Melbourne] Florida.”


Notice the source: a 'citizen' who heard the story from his nephew. Notice how the story morphed from a teacher handing out a bookmark with a pledge written on it to allegedly forcing her students to sign a pledge to forcing her students to sign a pledge without the 'allegedly'.

No student in the class is quoted as saying the Professor forced anyone to sign anything.

Now the matter is under investigation by the College (curiously referred to as 'University Officials' in article after article).

This may come as a shock to some people, but just because you read something on the Internet doesn't mean it's true.
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Droopy wrote:http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/09/18/indoctrinate_u_professor_forces_students_to_pledge_they_vote_for_obama_and_democrats

A professor in Florida is under fire today after forcing her students to sign a pledge to vote for Barack Obama and Democrats. Oliver Darcy over at Campus Reform has more:

A college professor has been placed on leave after she allegedly forced her class to sign a pledge to vote for President Obama in the upcoming elections.

Early last week Professor Sharon Sweet at Brevard Community College (BCC) allegedly told students to sign a pledge that reads: “I pledge to vote for President Obama and Democrats up and down the ticket.”

University administrators said they learned about the incident late Thursday afternoon and launched an investigation, after they received a phone call from a concerned parent.

“Based on the allegations, Associate Professor Sweet has requested, and been granted, a leave of absence without pay effective immediately,” reads a statement put out by John Glisch, Associate Vice President for Communications at BCC.

“The college will continue its investigation into the matter, which will include interviews with all students in her class,” continues the statement.

Sweet’s actions may have also violated Florida’s election laws.

The pledge was printed by Sweet from GottaVote.org, a voter registration website paid for by the Obama campaign. I'm pretty certain Ms. Sweet failed to tell her students that 50 percent of recent college graduates can't find a job and that they'll most likely have to move back in with their parents after school as a result. Young America's Foundation points out the youth misery index has hit a record high of 90.6.

Young America’s Foundation has released the Youth Misery Index (YMI), which has reached a record high (90.6) and has grown more than 25 percent in four years—17 percent since the Obama administration took office.

To calculate the index, Young America’s Foundation adds together youth unemployment, average graduating student debt (in thousands), and national debt per capita (in thousands). At no point in recent history has life been harder for America’s young people.

The Youth Misery Index represents a three-pronged attack on young Americans’ financial security—educational debt from their past, unemployment in the present, and a future plagued by the burden of massive government debt.

Youth unemployment is at 17.4 percent—one of the highest levels since World War II. Average graduating student debt has reached a record-breaking $26,300. National debt per capita is $46,900—the highest ever. Add it up, and the Youth Misery Index comes out to 90.6 (17.4 + 26.3 + 46.9 = 90.6). What does this number mean? Like Jimmy Carter’s Misery Index, the YMI uncovers some real threats to our nation’s prosperity.

The economy doesn't run on hope and change, it runs on strong businesses and economic growth, both lacking under Obama.



You are seriously fevered.

For every such wacky bit of behavior on one side of the political divide there are plenty on the other (and the right screams "unfair" everytime someone points out something).
Yet you use the word "typical".
Notice that we on the so called "left" have plenty of anectdotes about right-wing-nuts (your post itself is now on that list of anecdotes).
This mundane observation already ruins the significance of your post.

Is this supposed to be reasoned and balanced discussion or just the lowest form of rhetoric device?

How absurd that Droopy goes on like he does about serious discussion. Is this supposed to be serious?

Droopy uses rare and strange worst-case outliner data points to draw conclusions about the data set.
(There is nothing typical about this example)


Let me try to play the game by using our extreme nut Droopy:
This behavior of Droopy's is typical of the right.

(The truth might be that typical conservatives aren't nearly as far off the deep end as Droopy).
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Re: Typical Leftist...

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Analytics wrote:Are you suggesting that the typical "leftist" college teacher forces his or her students to pledges to vote for the left?



I'm saying that very, very many of them, would, (and have historically) do exactly that if they knew they could get away with it under the cover of official state sanction and protection from dissent, legal challenge, and personal consequences.
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First, it is not reported on any of the major news sites that I have seen.


Which means utterly nothing.



I pledge to vote for President Obama and Democrats up and down the ticket.

You come up with is a list of blogs reporting, with virtually identical verbiage, the same story, but most without attribution of the original source. One source attributes watchdogwire.com as the original source.

Checking that site, here's the original lead:

Watchdogwire wrote:A citizen, whose nephew attends Brevard Community College, reports that he brought home the below bookmark pledging to vote for President Obama. The bookmark and pledge was handed out during a mathematics class taught by Assistant Professor Sharon Sweet. This occurred “while the student was in class at the request of his College Algebra teacher, Sharon Sweet, from Brevard Community College in [Melbourne] Florida.”


Notice the source: a 'citizen' who heard the story from his nephew. Notice how the story morphed from a teacher handing out a bookmark with a pledge written on it to allegedly forcing her students to sign a pledge to forcing her students to sign a pledge without the 'allegedly'.

No student in the class is quoted as saying the Professor forced anyone to sign anything.

Now the matter is under investigation by the College (curiously referred to as 'University Officials' in article after article).

This may come as a shock to some people, but just because you read something on the Internet doesn't mean it's true.


If you had actually done the homework you claimed to have done, you would have seen that its made its way to The View (admittedly, a far worse source for news or serious discussion than even the most obscure blog)

http://theview.abc.go.com/forum/college ... vote-obama

You would also have seen that it was reported locally in central Florida media:

http://spacecoastdaily.com/2012/09/inap ... classroom/

http://government.brevardtimes.com/2012 ... e-for.html

Oh, and as for major media missing it:

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to ... a-ple.html

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... y-students

As I began this thread, "typical liberal."
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You are seriously fevered.


No, just very educated and very, very observant.
For every such wacky bit of behavior on one side of the political divide there are plenty on the other...


Actually...no, there isn't, which is why neither you nor any other venue, whether online, in the print or electronic media, or anywhere else, can actually find any substantive examples of such things among conservatives, except in rare, isolated cases in which conservative philosophy and politics don't actually have anything to do with the case.

There is a vast, illimitable gulf between the Left and the Right that begins with core worldview assumptions and manifests itself, at least with those who are consciously aware of their leftist ideological views and committed to them, in behavior.

This kind of behavior has been common, accepted, and encouraged within higher education in this country for thirty years, and despite countless lawsuits and bad PR, has become ever more entrenched, petulant, and repressive over time. Political correctness, speech codes, syllabi that are little more than ideological manifestos, coerced sensitivity training for the ideologically impure, the use of grades as weapons against non-leftist students who will not regurgitate the preconceived correct answers and mantras, denial of tenure and unvarnished hostility, hounding, and personal threats (including violence) against conservative students, newspapers, and teachers, has long been a hallmark - a defining characteristic - of modern academe, and it is solely and only from the Left that these trends, attitudes, and behaviors have come. It has not come from conservatives. It has not come from libertarians. It has come from within, and solely from within the academic and particularly, the tenured academic Left (the relatively small but vastly influential and powerful, out of all proportion to its numbers, neo-Marxist/cultural Marxist, neo-communist, progressive, postmodern Left).

This has been exposed, articulated, analyzed, critiqued, and studied so much for so long that having to go over the basics with people is, for me, quite irritating, to say the least.
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Droopy wrote:
Analytics"]Are you suggesting that the typical "leftist" college teacher forces his or her students to pledges to vote for the left?


I'm saying that very, very many of them, would, and have (historically) do exactly that if they knew they could get away with it under the cover of official state sanction and protection from dissent, legal challenge, and personal consequences.




"would"?
"if"?

"if"????

So this means about as much as the following:

"very, very many conservatives, would, and have (historically) force everyone to be a fundie christian if they knew they could get away with it under the cover of official state sanction (should dominionists take control let's say) and protection from dissent, legal challenge, and personal consequences."

In other words, it means nothing.

Droopy would eat poor children if he thought he could get away with it.
LOL


...would.....if
counterfactuals and wild hypotheticals

How stunningly idiotic you are Droopy.


Very very awkward sentence structure by the way.
Let's gawk at it again:
"I'm saying that very, very many of them, would, and have (historically) do exactly that if they knew they could get away with it under the cover of official state sanction and protection from dissent, legal challenge, and personal consequences."-Dopey Droopy.
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Analytics wrote:Are you suggesting that the typical "leftist" college teacher forces his or her students to pledges to vote for the left?

No, but the typical liberal sees nothing wrong that a leftist college professor would be hired in the 1st place.
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LittleNipper wrote:
Analytics wrote:Are you suggesting that the typical "leftist" college teacher forces his or her students to pledges to vote for the left?

No, but the typical liberal sees nothing wrong that a leftist college professor would be hired in the 1st place.

WTF??
Are you suggesting that colleges should only hire republicans?
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