Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
Post Reply
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

Where does the New Testament explicitly forbid homosexual marriage?
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
_Kishkumen
_Emeritus
Posts: 21373
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:00 pm

Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

Post by _Kishkumen »

Catherine Aurelia wrote:Would you also boycott a kosher deli owned by Hasidics because they, too, do not believe in same-sexed marriages?


You talk about this like voting with my feet and my wallet is a bad thing.

Let's put it another way:

If I knew a clothier was using child labor to make cheap clothes, would I have a problem with not buying their clothes?

No.

If I found out that I was buying from a bookshop run by a cult practicing polygyny with underage brides, would I buy books there?

No.

If I found out that a bakery was run by a fringe right wing political group that advocated a return to racial segregation, would I buy their bread?

No.

So, do I see anything wrong with not eating at a restaurant that uses its profits to fund the effort to fight gay marriage?

Nope.

Am I missing something here? 'Cause I'm having a hard time seeing how my sensible position on this issue, given my personal values, is a problem.

And yes, I would quit eating at a Hasidic deli if they did as Chick-fil-A is doing. I have no qualms about saying so.

Your pseudo-quandary is a red herring. Not eating there for my stated reasons would not make me an anti-Semite.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
_Gadianton
_Emeritus
Posts: 9947
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:12 am

Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

Post by _Gadianton »

A fascinating episode in the history of Mopologetics. There are some unanswered questions here though. Check this out:

Scott Lloyd wrote:Accordingly, I decided today to do my own personal anti-boycott. For the first time in years, I patronized Chik-fil-A today.


This is stunning. Why hadn't Lloyd visited a Chik-Fil-A in so many years? I manage to swing by three or four times a year myself. This is especially troubling given how incredible their food is in Lloyd's opinion. I can only conclude that rather than waging an anti-boycott, Lloyd has ended a previous boycott! The establishment is heavily born-again Christian, and born-again Christian's are heavily anti-Mormon. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," it would seem. It must be painful given the numbers of Chick tracts the employees of the chain have probably distributed in their Christian walk not to mention probable discrimination against Mormons who have applied to work there/worked there over the years. I wonder what Cathy's (owner's) perspective on baptism for the dead is? His church (First Baptist) considers Mormonism a cult.

Though I was disappointed they did not offer fry sauce


Well, this isn't a huge mystery, I've discussed Fry Sauce in the past. Here's something I wrote 5 years ago:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6909&hilit=fry+sauce

...It's a sauce appealing only to brute and the most common of tastes. And the creation of it is the defining moment of the modern Utah cultural identity.
_Chap
_Emeritus
Posts: 14190
Joined: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:23 am

Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

Post by _Chap »

From the thread linked to in the previous post:

Gadianton wrote:[The inventor of Fry Sauce took some] mayonnaise and mixed it with ketchup to produce the most vulgar condiment known to the history of the world.


I'd like to make some kind of witty remark about that, but I'll just say that no-one had better tell the French what the Utahns did with their mayonnaise. Otherwise Gallic suicide bombers will be targeting US embassies worldwide. It's that serious.

Though I suppose if the President issued an immediate statement to the effect that it isn't real mayonnaise at all, but just a kind of culinary slurry not intended for human consumption, and renamed it 'Freedom Gloop' or something, the violence might abate in a month or two.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
_Bret Ripley
_Emeritus
Posts: 1542
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:53 am

Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

Post by _Bret Ripley »

Gadianton wrote:
Though I was disappointed they did not offer fry sauce
Well, this isn't a huge mystery, I've discussed Fry Sauce in the past. Here's something I wrote 5 years ago:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... =fry+sauce
...It's a sauce appealing only to brute and the most common of tastes. And the creation of it is the defining moment of the modern Utah cultural identity.
Until this morning, I had never heard of "fry sauce". I will now spend the rest of my day in a calculated attempt to forget that I have now heard of "fry sauce".
_Bob Loblaw
_Emeritus
Posts: 3323
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:26 am

Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

Post by _Bob Loblaw »

Bret Ripley wrote:Until this morning, I had never heard of "fry sauce". I will now spend the rest of my day in a calculated attempt to forget that I have now heard of "fry sauce".


It must be an acquired taste. A couple of my kids like it, but the rest of my family does not.

Fortunately for those who love the stuff, you can now order it online.

http://somedudesfrysauce.com/store/

Image
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS

"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
_Cicero
_Emeritus
Posts: 848
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:09 am

Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

Post by _Cicero »

It's definitely an "acquired taste" . . . I grew up in Utah and can't stand the stuff.
_Yoda

Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

Post by _Yoda »

I've been dipping french fries in Thousand Island dressing since I was a kid. And I'm a Californian! :lol:

As far as I'm concerned, Utah didn't invent Fry Sauce. It just invented a stupid euphemism for Thousand Island dressing, and claimed it as their own. :rolleyes:
_Sophocles
_Emeritus
Posts: 298
Joined: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:39 am

Re: Scott Lloyd Goes to Chik-Fil-A

Post by _Sophocles »

liz3564 wrote:I've been dipping french fries in Thousand Island dressing since I was a kid. And I'm a Californian! :lol:

As far as I'm concerned, Utah didn't invent Fry Sauce. It just invented a stupid euphemism for Thousand Island dressing, and claimed it as their own. :rolleyes:


Seems like people all over the place have figured out that ketchup and mayo mixed together ain't half bad.

Russian dressing in New England
Marie Rose sauce in, um, Old England
Salsa golf in Argentina

And a bunch of others.
Post Reply