Church spokesman Scott Trotter, however, declined to respond to questions from ABC News about who prepared the presentation, how many church groups saw it, why details about it are being kept secret.
Status of MormonThink events
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And if further proof were needed...
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The purpose of MormonThink as stated on the website:
The purpose of this site is to generate discussion about little-known topics of church history to those interested in increasing their knowledge about these kinds of interesting, historical Mormon issues. We encourage people to think objectively about issues involving the doctrine, practices and history of the LDS church. Many Latter-day Saints are completely unaware of some or all of the issues discussed here, or have an incomplete, one-sided view of them. We present arguments and responses from both critics of the church and true-believing members and add some opinions of those that helped compile the data.
In our opinion, nothing on this site 100% proves or disproves whether or not the LDS church is God's one, true church. We merely present some of the strongest critics arguments used against the church and then find the strongest defenses we can find against those arguments.
There are many legitimate issues that many LDS members are concerned about and many Latter-day Saints have left the church over them. Our hope is that the church will start discussing these issues openly so members can know the facts from all sides so everyone can decide for themselves how important they think these issues are. We feel that if the church will start openly discussing these issues and perhaps provide some official responses, less people will leave the church over them and those in the church that already know about these issues, will feel more comfortable remaining in the church if they can openly discuss them.
The purpose of this site is to generate discussion about little-known topics of church history to those interested in increasing their knowledge about these kinds of interesting, historical Mormon issues. We encourage people to think objectively about issues involving the doctrine, practices and history of the LDS church. Many Latter-day Saints are completely unaware of some or all of the issues discussed here, or have an incomplete, one-sided view of them. We present arguments and responses from both critics of the church and true-believing members and add some opinions of those that helped compile the data.
In our opinion, nothing on this site 100% proves or disproves whether or not the LDS church is God's one, true church. We merely present some of the strongest critics arguments used against the church and then find the strongest defenses we can find against those arguments.
There are many legitimate issues that many LDS members are concerned about and many Latter-day Saints have left the church over them. Our hope is that the church will start discussing these issues openly so members can know the facts from all sides so everyone can decide for themselves how important they think these issues are. We feel that if the church will start openly discussing these issues and perhaps provide some official responses, less people will leave the church over them and those in the church that already know about these issues, will feel more comfortable remaining in the church if they can openly discuss them.
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why me wrote:Bob Loblaw wrote:
Because it gives the lie to the church's "I Am a Mormon" campaign of inclusiveness and diversity.
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Well, even if you are right, the people who run the site should not be members.
Why shouldn't they be members?
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café crema wrote:
Why shouldn't they be members?
No organization can allow people who are undermining that organization allow such people be members. For example: a priest who decided to marry. What would happen to that priest? Or priests that actively undermine the teachings of the catholic church. What would happen to those priests?
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why me wrote:café crema wrote:
Why shouldn't they be members?
No organization can allow people who are undermining that organization allow such people be members. For example: a priest who decided to marry. What would happen to that priest? Or priests that actively undermine the teachings of the catholic church. What would happen to those priests?
If you wish to invoke the Catholic Church in all of this, a far more valid analogy would be that of Galileo who, in short, published the truth about the structure of the solar system against the wishes of the Catholic Church and was subjected to house arrest by the Church for doing so.
Do you think that was a good idea?
I don't.
The Catholic Church found itself apologizing for that one centuries after the fact.
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
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Four centuries. As in the case of Giordano Bruno.DrW wrote:If you wish to invoke the Catholic Church in all of this, a far more valid analogy would be that of Galileo who, in short, published the truth about the structure of the solar system against the wishes of the Catholic Church and was subjected to house arrest by the Church for doing so.
Do you think that was a good idea?
I don't.
The Catholic Church found itself apologizing for that one centuries after the fact.
So, the prophets seers and revelators have left three century to retrace...
See my comment (and the picture in it, when I had the pictures...)
The memorial of Giordano Bruno in the place he was burned alive at the stake, Campo de' Fiori in Rome. The statue is placed so Bruno faces in the direction of the Vatican.
[#img] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... statue.jpg[#/img]
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- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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MormonThink article in "The Daily Beast" ...
Below is a link to an article in today's The Daily Beast about the efforts to silence MormonThink:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ritic.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ritic.html
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:Below is a link to an article in today's The Daily Beast about the efforts to silence MormonThink:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ritic.html
What is amazing is the comments section. Such hatred for the Mormon church and such ignorance too. Here we go back to the 1830's and 1840's. The same hatred and the same ignorance about the Mormon church. We cam see the situation that the early saints were in. Yellow journalism fueling the non-mormon communities.
You gotta love the world. Nothing really changes.
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We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
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We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
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why me wrote:What is amazing is the comments section. Such hatred for the Mormon church and such ignorance too. Here we go back to the 1830's and 1840's. The same hatred and the same ignorance about the Mormon church.
Yeah, why me, people having thinking and using reason for a long time now, even all the way back to 1830. Go figure.
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So, the problem is with being critical of Mitt Romney!
My gosh, I can't believe it and the crowd is buying it.
We all know better right?


We all know better right?

I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world.
Joseph Smith
We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
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We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
Joseph Smith