=>Ex-Mo=>Liberal or Libertarian?

[_Kishkumen]

I know your actions here.... such as your lying. Thus, I know you well enough to judge according to what I see.

Oh, and I understand well. But unlike you, I actually believe in being honest of things and people, and therefore I don't act the bigot and give "opinions" about people I know nothing about simply because I don't agree with their views.

They've never said or done anything "fascist", thus you lied.
They've never said anything "nutty" such as the fringe would like Alex Jones etc., thus you lied.

Let me tell you a secret.... Opinions are supposed to be based on something, these two little things called FACT and TRUTH. If they are not, then they are the imaginings of a BIGOT, a FOOL, a JOKER, a CHILD..... Understand??? I know you don't, because it is YOU who are the actual "idiot" who opens his mouth and lies about people making himself look the fool.

You are a nutcase. I mean that sincerely. That is my opinion. It is based on the vomitous posts you spew on this board, like the one written above. It is full of assertions, contains almost nothing in the way of a fact or reference to anything substantial, and it is stuffed to the brim with your usual venom.

If you can't see the extremism of bcspace and Droopy, it is only because you are comfortable with their lunacy. That I find very easy to believe, probably because it is true.

[_Tator]

I hate politics and politicians......it is all a joke.

- If God wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates. ~Jay Leno

- The problem with political jokes is they get elected. ~Henry Cate, VII

- We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. ~Aesop

- If we got one-tenth of what was promised to us in these State of the Union speeches, there
wouldn't be any inducement to go to heaven. ~Will Rogers

- Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who
are dumber. ~Plato

- Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river.
~Nikita Khrushchev

- When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe
it. ~Clarence Darrow

- Why pay money to have your family tree traced; go into politics and your opponents will do it
for you. ~Author Unknown

- Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some
more tunnel. ~John Quinton

- Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by
promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer

- - I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling the
truth about them. ~Adlai Stevenson, campaign speech, 1952

- A politician is a fellow who will lay down your life for his country. ~ Tex Guinan

- Any American who is prepared to run for president should automatically, by definition, be
disqualified from ever doing so. ~Gore Vidal

- I have come to the conclusion that politics is too serious a matter to be left to the politicians.
~Charles de Gaulle

- Instead of giving a politician the keys to the city, it might be better to change the locks.
~Doug Larson

- Don't vote; it only encourages them. ~Author Unknown

- There ought to be one day -- just one -- when there is open season on senators. ~Will Rogers

[_MCB]

One of our radical Republicans (faqs) is having a melt-down, because voting Democratic is a better match to a consistent pro-life agenda than voting Republican. And Romney cannot win without the Catholic vote.

[_sock puppet]

- Don't vote; it only encourages them. ~Author Unknown

True.

Slowly over time, after my apostasy, my interest in politics has waned. I had been pretty deeply invested in politics to that point in my life. I think that there is a correlation between my apostasy and the onset of my progressive apathy towards politics.

[_MCB]

Apapolitical here, too. There is no perfect choice.

[_huckelberry]

Well, Clint gets my respect in this matter of ice cream cones. He also get my vote for best speech at the convention.

On a fishing trip I picked a camping spot at dusk to find the next day I was smack in the middle of no name city,famous by way of that charming take off on polygamy Paint your Wagon. I found the log by which Clint sang by the stream. Though singing is not his strength finding the log was worth a chuckle.

I will fish there again perhaps eat ice cream, or drink a beer.

[_sock puppet]

Apapolitical here, too. There is no perfect choice.

It wouldn't take so much as a perfect choice for me to vote, just one that respects individuals both socially and economically.

[_MCB]

Apapolitical doesn't mean I won't vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

Often with the transition out of Mormonism, there is a concurrent transition from being a 'conservative' Republican.

I am one of those that probably realized, as I emerged from my suffocating Mormon cocoon, that I was and had been at core libertarian. Others seem to be liberal. And yet others retain their Republican leanings.

I note that many here that are liberal ex-mos are vocal towards TBMs that are Republican firebrands like bcspace and Droopy, but pretty much leave us libertarians alone.

I am curious why the 'hands off' towards libertarians. Is it because we at least share liberal values on social issues despite the fact we think less government is better overall?

I wouldn't vote for a libertarian. It's the highways, you see. I think privatizing highways, and other public works that are the responsibility of govt. is just, well, stupid. The end result is, only those who can afford private tolls will be the ones using the roads. Increased shipping costs, which show up in food, clothing and other commodities. I kind of have this idea that libertarians don't really think things through. Or if they have, they just don't give a crap about anyone but themselves. A political embodiment of the "me" generation.

Neither am I republican or democrat. I am anti-abortion and pro-labor. I am for a national healthcare system, but the one that was passed... ...the giving my hard earned wages over directly to an insurance company just really gets on my nerves. I feel hoodwinked.

[_huckelberry]

I think politics is frustrating irritating and disappointing. Now if there was an escape form politics there would be reason to consider doing it. But what escape is there? Leave one pattern and people create a new politics. The world over there are politics of one form or another. If you have more than one person trying to work together or live in contact politics become involved.

Perhaps if people went extinct there would be no politics. But other creature have their struggles and manipulations to determine order in the pack. Its a dog eat dog business. But if you go to dumber animals perhaps one can find an escape. Do ants argue about their role in life? The closer to machines the animals are the less politics may be involved. Perhaps I should watch the Terminator again before the election.