I'd rather have a beer with Obama--he'll win

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Re: I'd rather have a beer with Obama--he'll win

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Kishkumen wrote:
GR33N wrote:Time and time again I am amazed at how people (mostly liberals) will resort to name calling every time someone expresses a differing opinion than they have.

Can you not respect a different opinion? Is their no room in your intellect to be exposed to another opinion without resorting to name calling?

I seriously don't understand it.


Runtu has a different opinion from mine and you don't see me calling him names.

So does MsJack.

bcspace is a loon. So is whyme. It has nothing to do with the fact that they vote Republican and everything to do with their nutty ideas.

Nice try.


duh.
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Re: I'd rather have a beer with Obama--he'll win

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Blixa wrote:duh.


Liberal! :-P
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Re: I'd rather have a beer with Obama--he'll win

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sock puppet wrote:1992: Clinton over Bush 41
1996: Clinton over Dole
2000: Bush 43 over Gore
2004: Bush 43 over Kerry
2008: Obama over Clinton



Even though it is against my religion to drink beer, I would gladly have a cup of coffee with any of these illustrious men.

I would like to hear Mr. Dole's war stories. I dislike confrontation, but I would ask Mr. Romney about his apparent disdain for the poor and how he reconciles that with being a Christian. I hope he would tell me it was just campaign rhetoric designed to appeal to the fat cats at that $50,000 a plate dinner.
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Re: I'd rather have a beer with Obama--he'll win

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moksha wrote:
sock puppet wrote:1992: Clinton over Bush 41
1996: Clinton over Dole
2000: Bush 43 over Gore
2004: Bush 43 over Kerry
2008: Obama over Clinton



Even though it is against my religion to drink beer, I would gladly have a cup of coffee with any of these illustrious men.

I would like to hear Mr. Dole's war stories. I dislike confrontation, but I would ask Mr. Romney about his apparent disdain for the poor and how he reconciles that with being a Christian. I hope he would tell me it was just campaign rhetoric designed to appeal to the fat cats at that $50,000 a plate dinner.



Do you think Obama actually cares about the poor?
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Re: I'd rather have a beer with Obama--he'll win

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The whole reason to drink beer is to get a short respite from the cold, harsh realities of the world, like the fact that there are poor.
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son of Ishmael wrote:

Do you think Obama actually cares about the poor?


He is showing his concern by appearing on The View, The Letterman Show, Saturday Night Live etc. And not meeting with world leaders at the UN this week. And he is showing his concern for the poor by meeting with rock stars and being hip. :smile:
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sock puppet wrote:The whole reason to drink beer is to get a short respite from the cold, harsh realities of the world, like the fact that there are poor.


Well, the beer companies must be very happy since there are more poor now than four years ago. The poor must be must be gulping down the beer.
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Re: I'd rather have a beer with Obama--he'll win

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son of Ishmael wrote:Do you think Obama actually cares about the poor?

As an Obama campaign worker in 2008 who spend hundreds of hours walking the streets of black neighborhoods, meeting with folks in their back yards and having hundreds of conversations with hundreds of folks in poor neighborhoods, I can tell you that poor people think Obama cares about them. That has turned out to be the case as far as I can see. Believing that your candidate cares about you is what counts in an election.


On the subject of local perceptions regarding Obama vs. Romney, my wife and one other woman in our home ward have essentially taken responsibility for the well being of a kind and gentle female member who was hit by a drunk driver shortly after coming to this country as a legal immigrant. She suffered brain damage, has a limp and has lost partial use of her left arm. She is able to function on her own most of the time, but has cognitive and reasoning problems when things get complicated. She recently lost her job as a toll taker when the Turnpike went fully automated.

Even though she was a member in good standing when the accident happened, the LDS Church refused to continue to help her after a few months. This woman happens to be black. She attends our Ward with my wife when she can.

Romney is right in her case. This woman is a victim. To start with, the US justice system failed her. She received a $10,000 PIP payment in compensation for a lifelong disability. Nothing more.

Had a white middle class white male been so injured at her age, and had availed himself of a decent attorney, his total compensation would have been in the millions, and he would have had access to re-hab, re-training, counseling, the works.

This is the America that Romney longs for - an America where folks are treated in accordance with their social and economic status.

Romney's distain for 47% of Americans, myself included, represents the worst side of America. The Brits can see that, and their Prime Minister has said as much in public and on the record. Same with the Aussies.

Americans are beginning to see it, as well. Apparently enough Americans have seen it so far that Romney now has essentially no chance of winning this election, and that is all that really matters right now and for the next month and a half or so.
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Re: I'd rather have a beer with Obama--he'll win

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I don't care about Obama's personal feelings. I care that his policies are not based on the fantastical notion that continuing to cut taxes for the wealthy and funding to the social safety net will result in prosperity for the poor.
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