Equality wrote:It's too bad Runtu/Buffalo doesn't post here anymore. This would be perfect fodder for one of his patented Top 10 lists: top ten potential revelations Monson might give at the next conference.
LOL! That would be great. At the very least, someone should start a thread where we could speculate on the possible "new revelation", both seriously and not seriously.
Assuming the rumor is correct, and assuming Monson (as rumor has it) is suffering from Alzheimer's, I wonder if the "revelation" will be that he (Monson) is going to step down and let the next in line (Packer) take over? That would be pretty monumental when you think about it. It would also be a pretty logical thing to do and I'm not sure a "revelation" would be necessary for the Big 15 to change the long-standing precedent of succession. Then again, Hinckley ran the church for a long time when Kimball, Benson, and Hunter were incapacitated, so I don't know that they really need to change the precedent. Eyring and Uchdorf seem pretty capable of running the show until Monson knocks off.
Even if Monson was to announce that the block schedule or that a temple is being built somewhere, is that really what would qualify as a revelation. To me, this would be similar to me walking into a room and announcing that I'm going to the Olive Garden for dinner. I guess that it's a "revelation" because I am revealing to people -- many of whom presumably didn't care in the first place -- where I am going for dinner. But, it would have been just as valid to say that I was going to Applebee's or Red Lobster or that I was skipping dinner because I am starting a diet.
Similarly, if Monson makes an announcement about a change in church policy -- even something as revolutionary and unlikely as giving women the priesthood -- isn't that more of a policy announcement at the end of the day? To me, a revelation would be something more like announcing the location of Kolob or the city of Zarahemla -- something that Monson presumably wouldn't have been able to know without supernatural help.
"Joseph Smith was called as a prophet, dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb" -South Park
mercyngrace wrote: also, the fact that he named Russell m Nelson as the source as credibility to his claim. Denver is an attorney and I can't imagine him name dropping needlessly.
I'm an attorney, and I needlessly drop names all the time. Just ask David Bednar.
"A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows." - Samuel Clemens
The name of the "king" in Facsimile No. 3 of the Book of Abraham is Isis. Yes...that is her name.
One month before the election, let Romney have all the lime light, don't draw attention to his odd religion, I think the church would be foolish to do anything dramatic.
Other than schedule a church court for MT's editor
Or do a get out the vote campaign in Nevada
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Cicero wrote:Has this blogger been known to post rumors that turned out to be accurate in the past?
Excellent question. Based upon the ratio of past rumors of monumental developments at GC to actual monumental developments at GC, my instinct is to take this with a huge grain of salt. My hype-meter is spiking.
At the link, Denver Snuffer used the example of the Perpetual Education Fund as the last great revelatory program introduced at GC. But I wouldn't classify something on that level as affecting every man, woman, and child of the church. Besides, with the activity rate at below 50% there is almost nothing the church could to that would affect everyone in the church short of dissolving itself, turning off the lights, and sending everyone a refund check.
Equality wrote:Maybe some of our faithful participants can refresh our collective recollection about the "historic with a capital H" events that occurred at the April 2007 General Conference.
Well as Tim has already mentioned, Denver suggests that the Perpetual Education Fund (announced If I recall correctly in 2000 or 2001) was the last great revelation. So whatever was rumored or revealed in 2007 bypassed him and me...
When I was posting on the LDS Freedom Forum, the twice annual speculation was whether we would all be called to gather with our food storage in Missouri. :) Thankfully, recent conference addresses clarifying that we prepare to help our neighbors rather than to fortify a bunker have made that line of conjecture moot.
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"In my more rebellious days I tried to doubt the existence of the sacred, but the universe kept dancing and life kept writing poetry across my life." ~ David N. Elkins, 1998, Beyond Religion, p. 81
I doubt anything historic will happen at this next conference.
Talks will be given. Children will be bored. Passive voice will be used, and in triplicate.
If anything historic does happen, my bet is that the church is introducing an emeritus policy for the Q12 and the First Presidency, allowing not only Monson to retire, but Packer as well, and Perry and whoever else in the Q12 is currently enjoying stoppage time. Mandatory retirement of Apostles at age 70 would do everyone involved some good. There's really no good reason to have senile and decrepit men at the church's helm simply because they've stubbornly refused to quit breathing. Let these guys retire with honor, and try to enjoy their twilight years without the Apostolic rat-race.
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
Can anyone tell me why the PEF revelation is considered a 'great' revelation, or for that matter a revelation at all?
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
Fence Sitter wrote:Can anyone tell me why the PEF revelation is considered a 'great' revelation, or for that matter a revelation at all?
Because many Mormons are desperate for any sign--any at all--that there is such a thing as continuing revelation and inspiration from the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator they sustain as such. They will grasp at any crumb that falls from the prophetic table and magnify it into a succulent feast.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Runtu has heard our plaintive cries for a Top Ten Potential GC Revelations List and has supplied us one containing much that will incite loud laughter (so, if you have made any covenants to avoid such, you have been warned--read no further!):
10. And again, Fry Sauce is not for the body, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is a blight on the land and to be used in the destruction of thine enemies with judgment and skill.
9. The righteous in Utah County will all be lifted up to heaven–both of them.
8. But this generation shall have my word through press releases from the Public Affairs department.
7. He may be a dodo, after all.
6. CTR rings to be replaced by LGS (Let’s go shopping!) rings, available exclusively at City Creek mall.
5. New Church Historian: Brandon Flowers.
4. The sun borrows its light from Dieter Uchtdorf’s tan.
3. The anti-Christ is a mild-mannered blogger who lives in Provo, Utah.
2. BYU really did lose last week because you tampered with your “little factory.”
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
