For former Mormons who became atheists

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Re: For former Mormons who became atheists

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Multiple studies have been done that show via MRI and other studies the brain activities of "love".

http://bit.ly/SQjFeL

No study has been done that shows that energy is a fundamental form of love.
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The heart is where the truth is. The mind will never figure it out, but it is possible to align the heart with the mind.


When you say "heart" do you mean emotion and feelings? Intuition...What?
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SteelHead wrote:
No study has been done that shows that energy is a fundamental form of love.


If it does we all need to become Sun worshipers. :idea:
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Themis wrote:
SteelHead wrote:
No study has been done that shows that energy is a fundamental form of love.


If it does we all need to become Sun worshipers. :idea:


Don't forget the Moon! :mrgreen:
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Themis wrote:If you stick around a bit you will see this is tobin's little mantra to those that don't agree with him, but then he never sought God either according to him. God just showed up one day to the evil atheist tobin. You would think if this was the case he would be much less judgmental of others. He ASSumes that if we no longer believe in the LDS church we never sought God.
And you'll find Themis is just bitter about not being called of God like others have been (and the reason is because of who and what he is - and God knows it). For example, the apostle Paul is beyond his comprehension. He can't fathom God just showing up and calling people to repentance like that. And they are called because they will not betray the Lord as others on this forum would because of who and what they are.
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Mktavish wrote:So my life comparison is of driving a car down the road ... (ya ya I know cliché')

You the driver are in control of the car (spirit/body) and the existence of life is the experience & hopefully learning (driving down the road)
Your gas pedal is your belief(faith) and your brake is your skepticism(doubt) Both useful and the most necessary tools to utilize.
The point of the trip is to experience the most beautiful sites and as many as possible ... plus maybe end up at a desirable location ... hmmm ,but there really isn't any proof of a final destination. If god is infinite and he made the roads , then why would they be limited? But next he also put road signs , although we don't know what they mean untill we experience them. And some drivers have spent time drawing maps and decifering these road signs into a map legend. Some draw maps from what they have driven past , but I would stress that alot will create a map filling in blanks they have no first hand knowledge of , and they almost always post a destination spot (mocked up as a vacation resort) Selling us a timeshare ... hehe.

There are basic rules of the road we can observe wich make our drive more enjoyable , but it is inevitable you'll run into a Me First driver that's only concerned with their destination.

I had more details I wanted to add , but feel its only going to turn into dribble. And one more thought of driving the road of life is ... you can't really appreciate the lush mountain roads without having the long desolate desert roads to compare them. (if your from Utah you know what I mean)



Too bad so many people get broken down lemons.
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Tobin wrote:And you'll find Themis is just bitter about not being called of God like others have been (and the reason is because of who and what he is - and God knows it). For example, the apostle Paul is beyond his comprehension. He can't fathom God just showing up and calling people to repentance like that. And they are called because they will not betray the Lord as others on this forum would because of who and what they are.



LOL You really have become very judgmental of everyone who disagrees with you. by the way I think Mktavish is a theist who doesn't like organized religion. That sounds like something you have promoted as well. Maybe he and others really are right about you.

by the way Who and what are we, and how is it that you were supposedly any better when you were, in your own words, and evil atheist. I doubt you will answer, and by the way I am not an atheist.
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http://www.indianexpress.com/news/love-for-babies-stems-from-your-brain-not-heart-study/925037/

The heart is a pump, nothing more. People have lived with some one else's heart, and artificial hearts, and they were still able to cognate and to feel. The heart is not a center of truth. It is a pump.
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Re: For former Mormons who became atheists

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Mktavish wrote:So my life comparison is of driving a car down the road ... (ya ya I know cliché')

You the driver are in control of the car (spirit/body) and the existence of life is the experience & hopefully learning (driving down the road)
Your gas pedal is your belief(faith) and your brake is your skepticism(doubt) Both useful and the most necessary tools to utilize.
The point of the trip is to experience the most beautiful sites and as many as possible ... plus maybe end up at a desirable location ... hmmm ,but there really isn't any proof of a final destination. If god is infinite and he made the roads , then why would they be limited? But next he also put road signs , although we don't know what they mean untill we experience them. And some drivers have spent time drawing maps and decifering these road signs into a map legend. Some draw maps from what they have driven past , but I would stress that a lot will create a map filling in blanks they have no first hand knowledge of , and they almost always post a destination spot (mocked up as a vacation resort) Selling us a timeshare ... hehe.

There are basic rules of the road we can observe wich make our drive more enjoyable , but it is inevitable you'll run into a Me First driver that's only concerned with their destination.

I had more details I wanted to add , but feel its only going to turn into dribble. And one more thought of driving the road of life is ... you can't really appreciate the lush mountain roads without having the long desolate desert roads to compare them. (if your from Utah you know what I mean)


I don't brake out of doubt, but just to not hit things, or I have arrived at my destination.
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