MT Twede's court cancelled

[_Equality]

A billion dollars for the poor will not even solve the problem for a week.

Which is why Jesus told people not to bother giving their money to the poor. Oh, wait...

[_Yoda]

Is there any more information on details? Has Twede commented on more details involving this change elsewhere?

[Schreech]

Sethbag said:

What's interesting to me is how abjectly the church is reacting to media scrutiny and not even following their own precedents and principles. By any objective standard within the church, he should be excommunicated. He's not just a wolf in sheep's clothing - he's just a wolf, period.

Surely he isn't Sethbag? He isn't even an apostate by the guidelines given in the CHI...

Is David repeatedly acting in clear, open and deliberate public opposition to the church or its leaders?
Is he teaching as Church doctrine information that is not church doctrine after he has been corrected by his bishop or a higher authority?
Is he following the teachings of apostate sects (such as those that advocate plural marriage) after being corrected by his bishop or a higher authority?
Is he joining another church and advocating its teachings?

They asked him to take temple content down as far as I am aware, and he took it down.

On what basis should he be excommunicated? Specifically?

Why me, some would argue that the 'Apostle' Paul (who had actually never met the living Jesus of Nazareth), significantly changed and developed the early church and perhaps not always in accordance with the way the 12 Apostles (who had known the living Jesus of Nazareth) wanted the movement to go.

What authority did Paul have? If it happened in the LDS church today he would be excommunicated. Think about it.

[_kairos]

did not mr twede resign making his ex com obe?

and if big" M" alan pratt went forward, his masturbation video/audio would have gone viral- guaranteed.

the church is niot stupid-collateral damage from excomming twede would have been toooooo much.


just sayin

k

[_LDS truthseeker]

This was the smart move at this point from a public relations point of view. I'd be interested to see how mormonthink's traffic was affected by all this.

Went up 10X normal volume for several days - still way higher. We've also gotten hundreds and hundreds of emails - most in support, a few condemning us to Outer Darkness and many people that never knew about these issues until now and are just investigating them.

[_Madison54]

I'd be interested to see how mormonthink's traffic was affected by all this.

Went up 10X normal volume for several days - still way higher. We've also gotten hundreds and hundreds of emails - most in support, a few condemning us to Outer Darkness and many people that never knew about these issues until now and are just investigating them.

Great! Sounds like this whole thing backfired big time on the church leaders.

[_why me]

Surely he isn't Sethbag? He isn't even an apostate by the guidelines given in the CHI...

Is David repeatedly acting in clear, open and deliberate public opposition to the church or its leaders?
Is he teaching as Church doctrine information that is not church doctrine after he has been corrected by his bishop or a higher authority?

From his blog:

The LDS hiearchy is comprised almost entirely of businessmen, lawyers and corporate professionals. Why is that? It's certainly an influence in the direction the LDS Church has taken when investing money. Members are told that constructing City Creek created jobs and protects the area near Temple Square. What isn't said is that it builds & protects profits. What isn't said: Jobs can be created by building shelters to protect the battered, homeless and heartless instead of protecting a church building. The money-changing at the side of Temple Square are given flashy tables and five-year rent-free contracts to protect the LDS temple.

I do believe that this language does not quite give support to the LDS general authorities. Nor to church policy. I do believe that this is the kind of behavior that Paul warned the saints about when he claimed that the church should be of one mind. Obviously, this guy thinks otherwise.

[_why me]

On what basis should he be excommunicated? Specifically?

Why me, some would argue that the 'Apostle' Paul (who had actually never met the living Jesus of Nazareth), significantly changed and developed the early church and perhaps not always in accordance with the way the 12 Apostles (who had known the living Jesus of Nazareth) wanted the movement to go.

And this:

Plenty of members are secretly sick inside when thinking about the direction MormonCo heads as it deals with the temple-protecting money-changers. This is not the gospel. This is the business.
Many members are tired of the corporate takeover of their religion, but afraid to speak out. Understandably when they see that the slightest words can pull you into disciplinary council at the drop of a paisley shirt. But I'm here to tell you, if enough members make a silent statement in a way that cannot be punished, it will be recognized and the corporation will get the message.

The LDS church is not the church of england. Calling the LDS church MormonCo and calling the church a corporation is the wording that he used is not exactly church friendly. What do you think Mary?

[_Valentinus]

Why Me:

Despite the language that Twede uses, is there anything in those statements you cite that are patently false? Or are you just upset because he used non-passive language?

The LDS church IS a corporation. It belongs right next to the NYSE.

[_3sheets2thewind]

From what I understand he resigned his membership. Why excommunicate someone who is resigning...an excommunication just seems vindictive at that point.

Creati.g jobs via homeless shelters, is as old and tired as the oil could have been sold for $300pence and given to the poor.