Alter Idem wrote:Freud was right on this one. If a person is stuck in the phallic stage (as some on this board clearly are), they will see phallic symbols everywhere.
zeezrom wrote:Remind me what the phallic stage is, please.
I'm a little surprised that I'm the only one who felt this way about the pipe organ. Well, I do remember my friend mentioning it to me when I was a deacon, so I have at least one other person.
Alter Idem wrote:Well, if your deacon age friend pointed it out, then that tells you something.
Phallic stage is the third stage of psychosexual development, spanning the ages of three to six years, wherein the infant’s libido (desire) centers upon his or her genitalia as the erogenous zone.
Alter Idem, have you had no desires since age 6 that center around your genitalia as the erogenous zone?
Droopy wrote:Bob, I'm quite aware that this is all bluff and bluster, and that you're hiding an agenda behind your always crytptic but never fully polished or fleshed out statements.
"Polished" and "fleshed out"? Were those intentional references to the phallic symbol of the OP? I wonder what the agenda is I'm hiding. Maybe you can enlighten me because I'm not aware of a hidden agenda. I recognize that you are associating me with someone you've encountered in the past even though I have assured you repeatedly that I am not that person. Believe what you want. If you act like a jerk I will call you out on it.
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Alter Idem wrote:Freud was right on this one. If a person is stuck in the phallic stage (as some on this board clearly are), they will see phallic symbols everywhere.
Moving beyond the phallic stage is called death. We are sexual beings.
Being 'stuck' in the Phallic stage is not considered desirable. The Genital stage is the last, which most people move into at Puberty.
Alter Idem, have you had no desires since age 6 that center around your genitalia as the erogenous zone?
Yes, the Genital stage, Different from the Phallic stage. You'd have to read Freud to understand the differences.
Normally, I wouldn't comment on a thread about 'phalluses', but since it was such a good example of Freud's theory, I couldn't resist.
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Phallic stage is the third stage of psychosexual development, spanning the ages of three to six years, wherein the infant’s libido (desire) centers upon his or her genitalia as the erogenous zone.
Uh...
Where did the idea of libido come from? Have I mentioned libido anywhere? I mentioned a reminder, which is not the same thing.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
sock puppet wrote:Moving beyond the phallic stage is called death. We are sexual beings.
Being 'stuck' in the Phallic stage is not considered desirable. The Genital stage is the last, which most people move into at Puberty.
Alter Idem, have you had no desires since age 6 that center around your genitalia as the erogenous zone?
Yes, the Genital stage, Different from the Phallic stage. You'd have to read Freud to understand the differences.
Normally, I wouldn't comment on a thread about 'phalluses', but since it was such a good example of Freud's theory, I couldn't resist.
Nice job, Alter Idem!
Sock, Freud saw Eros and Thanatos as deeply entwined, although seemingly in opposition. "Beyond the Pleasure Principle" is where he first starts to work some of these ideas out, but he is not suggesting that "beyond" pleasure lies death, though perhaps the title might suggest that to some readers.
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
bcspace wrote:As do I. But I left off the typical preteen fixations with private body parts long ago.
Some things remind me of He-man as well. I suppose I have a He-man fixation. Shrug.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
sock puppet wrote:Moving beyond the phallic stage is called death. We are sexual beings.
Alter Idem wrote:Being 'stuck' in the Phallic stage is not considered desirable. The Genital stage is the last, which most people move into at Puberty.
Alter Idem, have you had no desires since age 6 that center around your genitalia as the erogenous zone?
Yes, the Genital stage, Different from the Phallic stage. You'd have to read Freud to understand the differences.
Normally, I wouldn't comment on a thread about 'phalluses', but since it was such a good example of Freud's theory, I couldn't resist.
Blixa wrote:Nice job, Alter Idem!
Sock, Freud saw Eros and Thanatos as deeply entwined, although seemingly in opposition. "Beyond the Pleasure Principle" is where he first starts to work some of these ideas out, but he is not suggesting that "beyond" pleasure lies death, though perhaps the title might suggest that to some readers.
Alter Idem's application of Freud's phallic stage suggested that after age 6 people do not see phallic similarities in other objects, unless stuck in the Freud's phallic stage. That's not what Freud was getting at.
Alter Idem's application suggests also that after age 6, one's desires do not center around their genitals. Again, a misapplication of Freud's analytical structure.
sock puppet wrote:Alter Idem's application of Freud's phallic stage suggested that after age 6 people do not see phallic similarities in other objects, unless stuck in the Freud's phallic stage. That's not what Freud was getting at.
Alter Idem's application suggests also that after age 6, one's desires do not center around their genitals. Again, a misapplication of Freud's analytical structure.
er no. I'll try to get back to this later...
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
