Things Changed When Shirt Color Began to Matter

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Re: Things Changed When Shirt Color Began to Matter

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Cuz white shirts, ties, and lava lavas make so much sense...... As with the ear ring rule, such a rule is trite has nothing to do with righteousness and everything to do with abandoning self determination for mindless subservience to authority.
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sock puppet wrote:Droopy,

In law school, there were individuals like you that never quite understood the concept of substance over form. (Unfortunately, most ended up in government regulatory jobs!)


I read once about a branch where there was only one Aaronic Priesthood holder, a 17 year old priest who was the son of a poor widow. He could not afford a white shirt and tie so the branch president would not allow him to bless the sacrament. That's pharisaical hair-splitting and I don't understand it.
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The modern church has become something that both the Bible and the Book of Mormon warn about.

Whited sepulchres, rameumptom, and more interested in finery and adornment for temples, and malls than in helping the poor.


Funny that.
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SteelHead wrote:The modern church has become something that both the Bible and.the Book of Mormon warn about.

Whited sepulchres, rameumptom, and more interested in finery and adornment for temples, and malls than in helping the poor.


Funny that.


I wouldn't go that far, but I do see a strong emphasis on conformity in dress and grooming that I don't understand. Where did that come from?
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Droopy wrote:

Resistance to this kind of utter stupefaction is futile. Hence, I will not resist, but just leave the scene of the crime.


A page and a half ago.

Face it, Droopy. You grew up on the margins of Modern Mormonism (which is Utahcentric no matter how global its claims). Your experiences are not typical.

....

leaving aside how infra dig reply is to your one note complaints, why is it that you are always saying goodbye and never really leaving?
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I'm just trying to have a polite conversation about a subject I'm trying to understand. Maybe I made a mistake in assuming Droopy was interested in such things.

If I were to hazard a guess I'd say that the emphasis on white shirts and ties and conservative dress and grooming standards is a reaction to the rebelliousness of the fifties and sixties, when having a beard or not wearing a tie were seen as deliberate acts of nonconformity. It may have made sense back then but these days it seems a little dated and weird. I can't tell you how many times non-members have told me that seeing missionaries on bikes with their white shirts and ties, helmets, and backpacks makes them think our church is a cult.
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I agree, Criag. This crap about shirt color is incipient fascism.

To hell with it.
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Kishkumen wrote:I agree, Criag. This crap about shirt color is incipient fascism.

To hell with it.


These lyrics just came into my head when I read your post:

You grow up and you calm down
You're working for the clampdown
You start wearing the blue and brown
You're working for the clampdown
So you got someone to boss around
It makes you feel big now
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Kishkumen wrote:I agree, Criag. This crap about shirt color is incipient fascism.

To hell with it.



This kind of raving, rabies maddened foam can only come from a unalloyed communist - not incipient - or an intellectually addled contemporary leftist for whom "fascism" is a kind of intellectual spasm that erupts when confronted by anything he cannot defeat through logical argument or to which he has a vague, inchoate, but powerful emotional response.

But, that's Kish.
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Kishkumen wrote:I agree, Criag. This crap about shirt color is incipient fascism.

To hell with it.



As a complete and utter apostate from the gospel, I wouldn't think you would care, one way or another, what faithful members agree to do and follow of their own free will and choice.

Don't lose too much sleep over it or break out in a rash.
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