Harry Reid: Mitt Is Not The Face Of Mormonism

[_Kishkumen]

Agreed. I'd probably be a cheater if I were that wealthy.

Yeah, I hope I would not be.

After all, I think people like Romney really don't need elevators for their cars, and I don't think it is at all virtuous of them to have such things. It is vulgar, crass, and, in a sense, repugnant. In my view, he should be ashamed of himself that there are kids out there who lack medicine, basic nutrition, and a decent education, while his damned automobiles ride on a damned elevator.

Any good Roman would have thought the same thing. A good Mormon should even more so given the teachings in the Book of Mormon and the temple. If that guy has received his second anointing, then he is a bigger stain on that blessing than Tom Phillips could ever hope to be.

[_Morley]

What an interesting discussion between Jason & Kish, at least to me.

Agreed. I fully enjoyed it. Thank you, guys.

[_Bob Loblaw]

Yeah, I hope I would not be.

After all, I think people like Romney really don't need elevators for their cars, and I don't think it is at all virtuous of them to have such things. It is vulgar, crass, and, in a sense, repugnant. In my view, he should be ashamed of himself that there are kids out there who lack medicine, basic nutrition, and a decent education, while his damned automobiles ride on a f*****g elevator.

Any good Roman would have thought the same thing. A good Mormon should even more so given the teachings in the Book of Mormon and the temple. If that guy has received his second anointing, then he is a bigger stain on that blessing than Tom Phillips could ever hope to be.

Modern Mormonism is wedded to capitalism and the accumulation of wealth. Romney is just doing what his religion taught him to do. We give lip service to caring for the poor and treating everyone as equals, but that's about it.

[_Cicero]

After all, I think people like Romney really don't need elevators for their cars, and I don't think it is at all virtuous of them to have such things. It is vulgar, crass, and, in a sense, repugnant. In my view, he should be ashamed of himself that there are kids out there who lack medicine, basic nutrition, and a decent education, while his damned automobiles ride on a f*****g elevator.

That reminded me of when Ann Romney said that she didn't feel rich. I wanted to say: "Sister Romney, if you have an elevator in your house for your cars, you're rich. Own it and deal with it."

[_Kishkumen]

Modern Mormonism is wedded to capitalism and the accumulation of wealth. Romney is just doing what his religion taught him to do. We give lip service to caring for the poor and treating everyone as equals, but that's about it.

That is why I call myself a Nibley Mormon when it comes to social issues. I find this version Romney seems to hew to a perverted form of the religion that is against the most basic principles taught by Jesus Christ in the New Testament. It is horrific how right wingers have corrupted Christianity into a religion of hate.

[_Kishkumen]

That reminded me of when Ann Romney said that she didn't feel rich. I wanted to say: "Sister Romney, if you have an elevator in your house for your cars, you're rich. Own it and deal with it."

Damn straight. And further, don't expect me to vote for your husband in November.

[_Cicero]

Lulu: You may have noted in my post that I did mention that the distinction (and frequently animus) between practicing lawyers and legal academics is indeed much starker at higher ranked law schools.

As for which law school I went to . . . let's just say that I can personally attest to the fact that the distinction between Harvard and Yale implied by the old saying you cited is definitely overblown.

[_Kishkumen]

ETA and in the time it took to write this missive, I see that Cicero completely disagrees with me. Maybe he went to a better law school

I found that very thought-provoking lulu. Thanks for sharing. My limited experience with law academics is that the trend is to inflate the importance of main-campus style scholarship, regardless of its value to the students. Indeed, in some ambitious schools there is a culture of not caring about the education of the next generation of attorneys in any serious way, but rather heavy emphasis on generating scholarship of limited practical use.

Having said that, I don't really know the inside of the world of law academics.

As a main-campus academic, I find that my research, though esoteric, actually energizes me and helps me be more effective in the classroom. I can reveal things about Latin literature that my students would never hear elsewhere, and I do believe those things help us understand the Romans better.

I guess the question these days is: of what use is it to students to know anything about the Romans? I would argue that it is very important, and that it is the short-sightedness of our philistine contemporary culture that blinds others to its importance.

[_Droopy]

Modern Mormonism is wedded to capitalism and the accumulation of wealth. Romney is just doing what his religion taught him to do. We give lip service to caring for the poor and treating everyone as equals, but that's about it.

And here, your intellectual and moral credibility just plowed at full speed, with crash test dummy at the wheel, into an unforgiving wall.

This about tells me about as much regarding who you really are, Bob, as I needed to know.

[_Droopy]

That is why I call myself a Nibley Mormon when it comes to social issues.

In other words, a socialist.