zeezrom wrote:I've been told that the Church is improving and stands today in a more inspired, benevolent light than before. This is certainly a faith promoting view.
Funny how benighted and uninspired the early prophets were.
zeezrom wrote:I've been told that the Church is improving and stands today in a more inspired, benevolent light than before. This is certainly a faith promoting view.
mms wrote:Does he not understand that the LDS Church's racism is different because it claims direct revelation from God to its prophets and that it is therefore stuck with the idea that God told it to be racist?
sock puppet wrote:And how many other organizations, those of men, were as late as 1977 and the early months of 1978 yet excluding people from other positions or privileges on the basis of race? LDS, listen up--you claim superiority because you claim Jesus is at your helm. You disserve yourselves and your organization when you simply point to what others were doing contemporaneous to what the LDS Church was doing. You are thereby de-legitimizing the claims of continuing revelation or that Jesus is at the helm of your organization.
Many people have criticized the LDS Church for banning blacks from its priesthood prior to 1978.
You don't hear very many people criticizing the racism against the Amalekite race embodied in God's instructions to Samuel who passed them on to Saul, as documented by 1 Samuel 15.
mms wrote:so, kevin, you are saying that LDS racism was, in fact, directed by god, right? why can't millet just say that and let the chips fall where they may? he can just reference the Bible. that should work out great.
why me wrote:It seems that god was racist in the Bible. He chose one group of people as his chosen people and those around the chosen people if they moaned about it were dealt with rather harshly. The red sea took some nice people and drowned them for daring to attack the chosen people.
Oh my oh my, I do wish that the Mormons were always perfect. I am so disappointed in their imperfections. How can Mormons also be imperfect? I am so disappointed in Mormon imperfections. They should be perfect like Christ. But no...they dare to be human. Oh my oh my....what to do? what to do?
why me wrote:mms wrote:so, kevin, you are saying that LDS racism was, in fact, directed by god, right? why can't millet just say that and let the chips fall where they may? he can just reference the Bible. that should work out great.
It seems that god was racist in the Bible. He chose one group of people as his chosen people and those around the chosen people if they moaned about it were dealt with rather harshly. The red sea took some nice people and drowned them for daring to attack the chosen people.
Oh my oh my, I do wish that the Mormons were always perfect. I am so disappointed in their imperfections. How can Mormons also be imperfect? I am so disappointed in Mormon imperfections. They should be perfect like Christ. But no...they dare to be human. Oh my oh my....what to do? what to do?
why me wrote:It seems that god was racist in the Bible.