DCP's Stock goes Down again

[_Chap]

Now we're rescuing Romney by mindreading. Well, so long as you are willing to extend the same mode of exoneration to other politicians, including Obama, go ahead.

It isn't "rescuing Romney by mindreading". It's simply asking why the subject of 47% of US citizens being excused from paying income taxes even came up. Why is it relevant?

You might like to ask Romney that. He seemed to think it was an important issue, in that the people in question had a victim mentality, wouldn't take responsibility for their own lives, and so on.

I believe there is a slightly greater chance of Romney trying to deal with the issue than Obama, but even then it's a slim hope.

Well, if the difference in likely economic efficacity of the two candidates is so small, then we might give weight to the fact that one of them looks dangerously unfitted to act as the representative of the US in a very dangerous world, where every word uttered by the nation's leader has to be weighed carefully. But your mileage may differ.

[_Ceeboo]

Where is the 'DCP's Stock goes down' thread?



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See what happens when you allow a bunch of democrats to use the computer.

You gotta love the MDB!

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_cinepro]

Well, if the difference in likely economic efficacity of the two candidates is so small, then we might give weight to the fact that one of them looks dangerously unfitted to act as the representative of the US in a very dangerous world, where every word uttered by the nation's leader has to be weighed carefully. But your mileage may differ.

Compared to what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxXUufI3jA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_AAMa_X2dM

[_Kishkumen]

Compared to what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxXUufI3jA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_AAMa_X2dM

LOL!!!

Cinepro, that is totally weak.

I can only conclude that this is a joke of some kind.

[_Jaybear]

I don't agree with Romney's "47%" number and characterization of those citizens. As I've said before, it was a boneheaded statement. There is some percentage of citizens that seem content to live on government support and see themselves as "victims" of some sort, but certainly not everyone who is exempt from paying income tax would fit that description, so the percentage would be much smaller.

So what is your number. According to Ryan it "only" 30%, but rising:

"Seventy percent of Americans want the American dream. They believe in the American idea. Only 30 percent want their welfare state," Ryan said. "Before too long, we could become a society where the net majority of Americans are takers, not makers."

[_Chap]

Compared to what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxXUufI3jA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_AAMa_X2dM

LOL!!!

Cinepro, that is totally weak.

I can only conclude that this is a joke of some kind.

That stuff is a kind of comfort blanket for worried Republicans. Their party is about to show in public just how catastrophically its political stance has failed the American people.

[Guest]

That stuff is a kind of comfort blanket for worried Republicans. Their party is about to show in public just how catastrophically its political stance has failed the American people.

Seriously, it is as though Republicans actually believe that discontentment with W was some kind of strategic pose that they decided to use on Barack Obama as a form of payback.

But, unfortunately, the sad truth is that W was simply not up to the job of being president, and this was painfully obvious every time he bungled his job.

Now they use this kind of weak crap to throw back at Obama and make themselves look even stupider in the process. Worse yet, they indulge in the worst kinds of wacko-conspiracy nonsense to say that Obama is Muslim (as if that were some kind of real issue) or that he was not born in this country.

It is stupid.

Just like all of the attention Democrats aim at Mitt's dog incident is stupid.

You would think that candidates were vying to be emperor or pope the way that they are smeared.

[_Ceeboo]

Good morning, Chap

Their party is about to show in public just how catastrophically its political stance has failed the American people.

I would suggest that if we were to widen our individual lense, even if just for a brief moment in time, to look at all of our beloved political parties ('theirs' and/or 'ours', depending on where one happens to stand at any given time), we might see how catastrophically they have all failed the American people.

Just a thought!

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_Chap]

Good morning, Chap

Their party is about to show in public just how catastrophically its political stance has failed the American people.

I would suggest that if we were to widen our individual lense, even if just for a brief moment in time, to look at all of our beloved political parties ('theirs' and/or 'ours', depending on where one happens to stand at any given time), we might see how catastrophically they have all failed the American people.

Just a thought!

Peace,
Ceeboo

US political discourse generally is not in a healthy state, and a lot of people bear responsibility for that, not all in political parties.

But in the context of the present contest for the Presidency, which will be decided one way or another, with no opt-outs unless you intend to emigrate, I do not think the Republicans (Tea-Party and all) are currently serving their country well. But, as I have said elsewhere, your mileage may differ.

[_Jaybear]

It is stupid.

Just like all of the attention Democrats aim at Mitt's dog incident is stupid.

You would think that candidates were vying to be emperor or pope the way that they are smeared.

Hardly stupid. Most American voters have a superficial understanding of the candidates. To them, having a likeable candidate is an important characteristic. Playing up the dog incident is a humorous way for democrats to reinforce a preexisting narrative that Mitt is callous and uncaring and therefore unlikeable.

By comparison, the republicans effectively used the image of John Kerry windsurfing to reinforce their narative that he was an elitist, out of touch with the common man.

What you call stupid, is a critically important part of part of broad campaign strategy.

Mitt's 47% comment was a gift to the democrats, as it played right into the narrative that they have spend small fortune crafting for him.

Peterson's blog is unintentionally hilarious, because in the very same sentence the he complains that people have been suckered into believing a false narrative created to smear Mitt, he shows the world that he himself has been suckered into believing the the ridiculously false narrative the extreme right wing has created for Obama:

The thing that’s keeping Barack Obama in the race despite his miserable performance on both economic policy and foreign policy, despite Obamacare, despite his attempts to control the means of production, despite his contempt for religious liberty, and despite his disdain for ordinary Americans, is Governor Romney’s entirely unwarranted negative public image as a person.

That comment is what I call a display of self righteous stupidity.