Dr. Shades wrote:In my opinion, if Schryver was told that it failed the website's peer review process, that's just code-language for "we don't want to destroy our reputation by publishing the work of a documented misogynist, but let's spare his feelings by blaming it on the peer review instead."
The peer review reason sounds much gentler and proceeding in a kind manner is always good policy. Kudos to the Mormon Interpreter for using their intellect rather than their mantle.
Ludd wrote:If his scroll-length article was, as he said in his blog post, already finished and ready to be printed in the FARMS Review, then why on earth wasn't it one of the first articles to appear in the new Mormon Interpreter? Is it possible that it didn't pass muster in the "professional peer-review" process for the new MI?
If it "passed muster" for a FARMS Review, then there's no way it wouldn't have passed muster for the Mormon Interpreter.
In my opinion, if Schryver was told that it failed the website's peer review process, that's just code-language for "we don't want to destroy our reputation by publishing the work of a documented misogynist, but let's spare his feelings by blaming it on the peer review instead."
Even that wouldn't be enough. Will knows all the people on the MI board. He'd know who it was who rejected him--it's not as if they've got a Bradford to use as a scapegoat anymore--and he'd go ballistic. There is no way they would risk rejecting him.
Doctor Scratch wrote:It's never going to see the light of day. They've said rather frankly that they need permission from the Brethren, and the Brethren are never going to give it--the same is true of Greg Smith's "hit piece" on John Dehlin.
In that case, William can just copy-and-paste it to his blog. He doesn't need a General Authority's permission to post to his own weblog.
That's not my understanding of the situation. I don't think he can do that; his access to the KEP/Book of Abraham materials was predicated on him getting his materials vetted by the General Authorities *prior* to publication. To publish the stuff on his blog would represent a major act of insubordination, and he would likely get into trouble. He's not Royal Skousen or Midgley; I don't think he's got enough clout (or gumption?) to stand up to the Brethren like that.
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Dr. Shades wrote:In my opinion, if Schryver was told that it failed the website's peer review process, that's just code-language for "we don't want to destroy our reputation by publishing the work of a documented misogynist, but let's spare his feelings by blaming it on the peer review instead."
Even that wouldn't be enough. Will knows all the people on the MI board. He'd know who it was who rejected him--it's not as if they've got a Bradford to use as a scapegoat anymore--and he'd go ballistic. There is no way they would risk rejecting him.
FAIR enough.
Doctor Scratch wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:In that case, William can just copy-and-paste it to his blog. He doesn't need a General Authority's permission to post to his own weblog.
That's not my understanding of the situation. I don't think he can do that; his access to the KEP/Book of Abraham materials was predicated on him getting his materials vetted by the General Authorities *prior* to publication. To publish the stuff on his blog would represent a major act of insubordination, and he would likely get into trouble. He's not Royal Skousen or Midgley; I don't think he's got enough clout (or gumption?) to stand up to the Brethren like that.
Okay, I can see your point of view. HOWEVER, Will himself tacitly claimed that the Brethren did vet his material, otherwise it wouldn't've been a hair's breadth away from being published by standard FARMS before it went the way of the dinosaur.
Or maybe that's where I'm going wrong. Maybe the powers-that-be at old FARMS simply jumped the gun by preparing Schryver for publication, either not knowing or not imagining that he needed G.A. approval before it went to print? And the G.A.(s) withheld approval rather late in the game?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:Okay, I can see your point of view. HOWEVER, Will himself tacitly claimed that the Brethren did vet his material, otherwise it wouldn't've been a hair's breadth away from being published by standard FARMS before it went the way of the dinosaur.
Or maybe that's where I'm going wrong. Maybe the powers-that-be at old FARMS simply jumped the gun by preparing Schryver for publication, either not knowing or not imagining that he needed G.A. approval before it went to print? And the G.A.(s) withheld approval rather late in the game?
We know for certain that Schryver needed GA approval to publish--that's a fact that isn't disputed by anyone. And Schryver spoke about needing this approval after the MsJack thread, so my assumption has always been that lack of GA approval is behind his failure to publish. The thing is: I don't think he's ever going to get that approval (if he does, it will happen after the election). My guess is that there is too much fear about media/PR fallout, and that Gerald Bradford was not alone in thinking this.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
I inquired as to the reasons for this sudden decision, and was told that it was prompted by the allegations made against me by the anti-Mormons at the Mormon Discussions message board. I requested that I be permitted to defend myself against these allegations. My request was denied. I categorically denied the veracity of the allegations. Dr. Hoskisson replied, and I quote:
"It doesn't matter if they're true or not. If we publish you, they will take these things to the media and bring disrepute upon the Maxwell Institute, BYU, and the Church."
I expressed shock that the Maxwell Institute would permit itself to be intimidated and manipulated by a group of mostly anonymous anti-Mormons associated with an obscure internet message board. Hoskisson expressed sympathy for my cause, but indicated he could do nothing.
Doctor Scratch wrote:We know for certain that Schryver needed GA approval to publish--that's a fact that isn't disputed by anyone. And Schryver spoke about needing this approval after the MsJack thread, so my assumption has always been that lack of GA approval is behind his failure to publish. The thing is: I don't think he's ever going to get that approval (if he does, it will happen after the election). My guess is that there is too much fear about media/PR fallout, and that Gerald Bradford was not alone in thinking this.
Hmmm, so as I said on another thread, it is actually the Church General Authorities preventing his publication rather than a bunch of anti-mormons. Why doesn't Will publicly call THEM out?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:We know for certain that Schryver needed GA approval to publish--that's a fact that isn't disputed by anyone. And Schryver spoke about needing this approval after the MsJack thread, so my assumption has always been that lack of GA approval is behind his failure to publish. The thing is: I don't think he's ever going to get that approval (if he does, it will happen after the election). My guess is that there is too much fear about media/PR fallout, and that Gerald Bradford was not alone in thinking this.
Hmmm, so as I said on another thread, it is actually the Church General Authorities preventing his publication rather than a bunch of anti-mormons. Why doesn't Will publicly call THEM out?
He doesn't want them to make his calling and election unsure?
He doesn't want COB to dispatch a couple of elders to dust their feet on his doorstep?
It has been my sincere desire for two years now not only for William Schryver's work to be published in some venue, but that eventually his work makes its way into the Ensign. As I have said many times, I would be overcome by ecstasy if Fratello Schryver became the new public face of LDS apologetics.