Are Mormon's the real Jews...?

[_Nightlion]

Not really. He was born of Mary but not of her DNA. So technically he was not even Hebrew.

He was in truth...........wait for it............God among us. Emmanuel. Really!

Wait...what? Jesus was a soft porn artiste from the 80's?

No.

[_PrickKicker]

Nightlion... I would like a CFR for your comment.

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Not really. He was born of Mary but not of her DNA. So technically he was not even Hebrew.

[_Nightlion]

Nightlion... I would like a CFR for your comment.

wrote:
Not really. He was born of Mary but not of her DNA. So technically he was not even Hebrew.

Genesis 3
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; bit shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

The first ovulation of Eve after her seed was multiplied and replenished unto her after she partook of the tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil, that first ovum, (that he might have preeminence in all things) was taken and characterized as Christ in the first verse.

To take a human ovum and hold it for cloning the body of Jesus Christ with the DNA (whatever) of the Father would make Jesus in the express image of the Father. It is also a nifty way for the power of the Holy Ghost to cause that clone to be placed into the VIRGIN womb of Mary.

John 14: 7, 9
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
• • •
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Hebrews 1
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

As just mentioned what Jesus knew of himself:

John 8: 23
23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Jesus could not accomplish an infinite atonement if he were just some guy and not Very God.

I might bring more to bear here if you want.

Imagine a young child God stuck here on our planet. Makes you gasp at the possibilities and no wonder he waited 30 years to....."Oh, yeah, I got to go and do that Messiah gig."

[_PrickKicker]

So you're not Mormon either like Sub,Nipper,etc you're also a fake.

It becomes clear when you start actually answering questions.

Also I am glad you used the term 'clone'...
1. A cell, group of cells, or organism that is descended from and genetically identical to a single common ancestor, such as a bacterial colony whose members arose from a single original cell.
2. An organism descended asexually from a single ancestor, such as a plant produced by layering or a polyp produced by budding.
3. A DNA sequence, such as a gene, that is transferred from one organism to another and replicated by genetic engineering techniques.
4. One that copies or closely resembles another, as in appearance or function: "filled with business-school clones in gray and blue suits" (Michael M. Thomas).
v. cloned, clon·ing, clones
v.tr.
1. To make multiple identical copies of (a DNA sequence).
2. To create or propagate (an organism) from a clone cell: clone a sheep.
3. To reproduce or propagate asexually: clone a plant variety.
4. To produce a copy of; imitate closely: "The look has been cloned into cliché" (Cathleen McGuigan).

When and how does a persons spirit enter the womb? and was Jesus's spirit introduced the same way?

Can you explain the motivational force that exists in a single sperm? Is this life force classed as spirit?

and then when this sperm combines with the egg and during mitosis forms 'identical twins' from just 1egg and 1 sperm and yet becomes 2 separate spirits?


Or in the case of Abigail and Brittany Hensel 1 Body and 2 heads, Please explain the spirits genesis?

[_Quasimodo]

So you're not Mormon either like Sub,Nipper,etc you're also a fake.

Think what you like about Night, but he is not a fake. He truly believes what he says. I don't agree with him much at all, but I consider him a friend and a very good guy.

[_PrickKicker]

nightlion claims that Mary did not contribute to Jesus DNA.

I am calling for a CFR from official LDS church publications...
Because according to Talmages: Jesus the Christ. (p.81)

There was "No violation of natural law... In his nature would be COMBINED the powers of Godhood with the capacity and the possibilities of mortality,... Through the ordinary operation of the fundamental law of hereditary... that living beings propagate after their kind. Jesus was to inherit the physical, mental, and spiritual traits, tendencies, and powers that characterized his parents ONE IMMORTAL AND GLORIFIED - GOD AND THE OTHER HUMAN - WOMAN."

What of his lineage and genealogy?
How therefore is he a descendant of David?
How was he able to lay down his life as part mortal?

Mormon?THINK!

[Guest]

There is actually someone here claiming that the Bible never says Jesus was an ethnic Jew.

Seriously, every time I think the stupid has bottomed out, I find out that I have overestimated the human race yet again.

Hebrews 7:14

For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

Matthew 1

1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;

3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;

4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;

5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;

6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;

7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;

8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;

9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;

10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;

11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:

12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;

13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;

14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;

15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;

16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

Luke 3

23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,

25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,

26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,

27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,

28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,

29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,

30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,

31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,

32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,

33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,

34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,

Does my memory fail me, or did the wise me come to the young Jesus seeking the King of the Jews? Mat 2:2

and this exactly determines His ethnicity how?
(especially since the "wise" men were expecting that Christ was the temporal prince not the divine one)

Oh, it probably has something to do with the requirement of descending from the royal Jewish line in order to claim a hereditary title.

[_Darth J]

close...i am an extremely successful architect.