Quasimodo wrote:I've posted this story before, but it's been a while, so I thought I would bore you all with it again.
Years ago, when I was working as a medical photographer, I went into the surgeons lounge between cases for a cup of coffee. Two cardiac surgeons I knew well were on the couch watching a daytime talk show program on the lounge tv. The subject was near death experiences. At the next commercial break I asked them what they thought about all that.
They both laughed. They told me about a case they had recently.
The day after a very extensive and dicey open heart surgery one of these surgeons visited their patient to see how things were going. The patient said that he had been watching his entire surgery while hovering near the surgery suite ceiling.
He described everything that happened, everyone that entered or left the room and many of the conversations that took place. Things that he couldn't possibly have known.
The doctor was a little disturbed by all this and even had a psychiatrist do an interview with the patient.
I asked the other doctor (from India) if he was disturbed by this. He smiled a big grin and said "I'm Hindu, we believe in all that stuff".
Cool
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Oh, and luckily Mormonism isn't real. This means heaven will be enjoyable.
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Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Quasimodo wrote:I've posted this story before, but it's been a while, so I thought I would bore you all with it again.
Years ago, when I was working as a medical photographer, I went into the surgeons lounge between cases for a cup of coffee. Two cardiac surgeons I knew well were on the couch watching a daytime talk show program on the lounge tv. The subject was near death experiences. At the next commercial break I asked them what they thought about all that.
They both laughed. They told me about a case they had recently.
The day after a very extensive and dicey open heart surgery one of these surgeons visited their patient to see how things were going. The patient said that he had been watching his entire surgery while hovering near the surgery suite ceiling.
He described everything that happened, everyone that entered or left the room and many of the conversations that took place. Things that he couldn't possibly have known.
The doctor was a little disturbed by all this and even had a psychiatrist do an interview with the patient.
I asked the other doctor (from India) if he was disturbed by this. He smiled a big grin and said "I'm Hindu, we believe in all that stuff".
Awesome story!
What's with the one cardiac surgeon believing in something as silly and absurd as a Creator? Talk about a spectacular example of our educational system failing!
Quasimodo wrote:I've posted this story before, but it's been a while, so I thought I would bore you all with it again.
Years ago, when I was working as a medical photographer, I went into the surgeons lounge between cases for a cup of coffee. Two cardiac surgeons I knew well were on the couch watching a daytime talk show program on the lounge tv. The subject was near death experiences. At the next commercial break I asked them what they thought about all that.
They both laughed. They told me about a case they had recently.
The day after a very extensive and dicey open heart surgery one of these surgeons visited their patient to see how things were going. The patient said that he had been watching his entire surgery while hovering near the surgery suite ceiling.
He described everything that happened, everyone that entered or left the room and many of the conversations that took place. Things that he couldn't possibly have known.
The doctor was a little disturbed by all this and even had a psychiatrist do an interview with the patient.
I asked the other doctor (from India) if he was disturbed by this. He smiled a big grin and said "I'm Hindu, we believe in all that stuff".
Awesome story!
What's with the one cardiac surgeon believing in something as silly and absurd as a Creator? Talk about a spectacular example of our educational system failing!
Peace, Ceeboo
Hey ya, Ceeboo!
Thanks.
This particular cardiac surgeon was educated in India and was a Hindu. Hindus are often very devout, much like Muslims (though a little more tolerant towards the beliefs of others).
I think you might be surprised at how many well educated medical people are open to the question of an afterlife. Especially those that work with dying patients. One of the reasons I'm an agnostic instead of an atheist.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
We have ample evidence that we lose the capacity to perform certain types of cognitions if we just damage certain parts of our brains. The idea that we can know this about our brains, but then believe that if we damage the entire brain so much that it stops working altogether, we can think perfectly and forever, is at least slightly absurd.
by the way, here's a joke. The plane loses an engine, Captain comes on the intercom and says we've lost an engine, the plane is going to take an additional 2 hours to reach our destination. A while later another engine goes out, Captain comes on the intercom and says we're down another engine, it's going to take us an additional 4 hours to reach our destination. Third engine goes out, Captain comes on the coms and announces it's now going to take an additional 8 hours to reach the destination. A passenger turns to the guy next to him and says "let's hope we don't lose that last engine, or we'll be up here forever!"
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
Quasimodo wrote:I've posted this story before, but it's been a while, so I thought I would bore you all with it again.
Years ago, when I was working as a medical photographer, I went into the surgeons lounge between cases for a cup of coffee. Two cardiac surgeons I knew well were on the couch watching a daytime talk show program on the lounge tv. The subject was near death experiences. At the next commercial break I asked them what they thought about all that.
They both laughed. They told me about a case they had recently.
The day after a very extensive and dicey open heart surgery one of these surgeons visited their patient to see how things were going. The patient said that he had been watching his entire surgery while hovering near the surgery suite ceiling.
He described everything that happened, everyone that entered or left the room and many of the conversations that took place. Things that he couldn't possibly have known.
The doctor was a little disturbed by all this and even had a psychiatrist do an interview with the patient.
I asked the other doctor (from India) if he was disturbed by this. He smiled a big grin and said "I'm Hindu, we believe in all that stuff".
Quas, this might be of interest to you if you haven't already seen it:
There is a greater expressed desire to be more tolerant or patient of human foibles and a greater appreciation for the interconnectedness of all living things. Those who encounter near-death experiences report an increase in their interest in spirituality but often expressly distinguish this from a church-going religiosity.
Just finished watching it. She was great. I was especially interested in the conversation about linear/ non-linear time. Something that I have been thinking about for a while.
I would love to see her interviewed in a more professional way. I was a little put off by the interviewer who seemed to feel it necessary to wave his arms and close his eyes when addressing the camera.
Hopefully someone with some production experience will see this video and decide it's worth doing it right.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Not to be self-loathing, but do you really want to live forever? I think people are more afraid of death than wanting to consciously exist forever. You'll never get over the fear of death as long as you live. Death and us being finite is what makes birth and the time we have to enjoy life beautiful. After 100 years with half of it your body aching all over, I think we'll be happy and ready to clear out and let the next generation have its shot.
