Anyone else think of "Full Metal Jacket" during Hawk's talk?

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Anyone else think of "Full Metal Jacket" during Hawk's talk?

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This part in particular:

I met my drill instructor, a battle-hardened veteran, when he kicked open the door to the barracks and entered while screaming words laced with profanity.

After this terrifying introduction, he started at one end of the barracks and confronted each recruit with questions. Without exception, the drill instructor methodically found something about each recruit to ridicule with loud, vulgar language. Down the row he came, with each marine shouting back his answer as commanded: “Yes” or “No, Sergeant Instructor.” I could not see exactly what he was doing, because we had been ordered to stand at attention with our eyes looking straight ahead. When it was my turn, I could tell he grabbed my duffel bag and emptied the contents onto my mattress behind me. He looked through my belongings, then walked back to face me. I braced myself for his attack. In his hand was...


I so wished he would have said "a jelly donut." Instead it was a Book of Mormon in his hand, and my mental image of R. Lee Ermey holding a jelly donut in his face was dashed.
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THEN what happened!!!! I'm on the edge of my seat here!
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just me wrote:THEN what happened!!!! I'm on the edge of my seat here!


Which story? In the cheesy, sugar coated General Conference story, the drill instructor found a Book of Mormon, and his heart was softened toward Brother Hawk. In the awesome Stanley Kubrick story, the drill instructor found a jelly doughnut that Private Pyle snuck in from the mess hall. He berated Private Pyle and then forced him to eat the doughnut while the rest of the marines did pushups to pay for it. This incident caused the other marines to beat Private Pyle with bars of soap while he was sleeping, which caused Private Pyle to descend into madness, culminating with him murdering the drill instructor before killing himself.
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DarkHelmet wrote:
just me wrote:THEN what happened!!!! I'm on the edge of my seat here!


Which story? In the cheesy, sugar coated General Conference story, the drill instructor found a Book of Mormon, and his heart was softened toward Brother Hawk. He berated Private Hawk for being anti Catholic and then forced him to eat the Book of Mormon while the rest of the marines did pushups to pay for it. This incident caused the other marines to beat Private Hawk with bars of soap while he was sleeping, which caused Private Hawk to descend into madness, culminating with him murdering the drill instructor before being appointed as a General Authority.


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DarkHelmet wrote:...the drill instructor found a jelly doughnut that Private Pyle snuck in from the mess hall. He berated Private Pyle and then forced him to eat the doughnut while the rest of the marines did pushups to pay for it. This incident caused the other marines to beat Private Pyle with bars of soap while he was sleeping...


Yeah, that's pretty much how I remember Marine Corps boot camp... 'cept we had four drill instructors, not just one.

I was also thinking of Paul H. Dunn when I read this... must be the holy spirit witnessing to me the truth of it.
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DarkHelmet wrote:... culminating with him murdering the drill instructor before killing himself.


A twist would have involved killing the drill instructor with a jelly donut. A double twist would be the same killing, but this time using a Book of Mormon. Talk about a rousing applause at General Conference!
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just me wrote:THEN what happened!!!! I'm on the edge of my seat here!


Jump to 20 seconds and watch R. Lee Ermey peel your face away for the source material:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TNhS81w ... re=related
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moksha wrote:
DarkHelmet wrote:... culminating with him murdering the drill instructor before killing himself.


A twist would have involved killing the drill instructor with a jelly donut. A double twist would be the same killing, but this time using a Book of Mormon. Talk about a rousing applause at General Conference!

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Having joined the Marine Corps during the height of the Viet Nam war and having witnessed and experienced much worse during Basic Training, I cannot imagine a Marine Corps Drill Instructor doing anything but mocking and berating someone with a Book of Mormon in their duffel bag.

Quite simply, it is their job - and they do it well.

This kid was certainly not the first to have had a Book of Mormon. There are prescribed processes and procedures for treatment of raw recruits. These do not include any deference whatsoever to the Book of Mormon.

Sorry, but I call BS on the story. I don't doubt that the DI found a Book of Mormon in a duffel bag. I am highly skeptical of the claim that it caused the young recruit who owned it be spared the required harassment.

(If that were the case, the rest of the recruits would probably be writing home and asking to be sent a copy for their personal protection.)
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moksha wrote:
DarkHelmet wrote:... culminating with him murdering the drill instructor before killing himself.


A twist would have involved killing the drill instructor with a jelly donut. A double twist would be the same killing, but this time using a Book of Mormon. Talk about a rousing applause at General Conference!


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